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AConan Vs CF&B Subs

Posted: January 12th, 2014, 3:55 pm
by anecdotic event
Hi

I'm currently downloading all the old detective conan episodes and I came across 2 different subs. The first one is AConan and the other one is CF&B. Which do you think i should download, i want the one that will explain the situation in depth!!!

Thanks :)

Re: AConan Vs CF&B Subs

Posted: January 12th, 2014, 6:41 pm
by Wakarimashita
AConan is basically DCTP's ancestor (I think) so you're sure to have good quality subs with them.

Re: AConan Vs CF&B Subs

Posted: January 12th, 2014, 8:25 pm
by usotsuki
CF&B is basically the R1 subs made consistent with my other releases, and more-or-less consistent with M-L subs and Puto's subs.

Re: AConan Vs CF&B Subs

Posted: January 12th, 2014, 8:28 pm
by Puto
The biggest issue with AConan isn't the subs, it's the fact that their releases were done in 2003 from pre-DVD sources. The video... didn't age well. The subs themselves are fine. CF&B are modern encodes, so they should look much better.

Re: AConan Vs CF&B Subs

Posted: January 13th, 2014, 2:07 am
by usotsuki
I should expand on both my earlier remark and Puto's, really. CF&B is ColdFusion (me) and Baaro (mostly me). In other words, I had a little help from the usual suspects over at M-L (Puto, Gonbe, bluesun) and a couple others, but mostly, I just took and stitched together R1 subs over R2 video (falling to R1 where somehow a couple of my DVDs had gotten damaged), edited it a little for consistency, retypeset it, and added in the missing stuff, mostly through my own or bluesun's translation. Sometimes, also, I consulted what Puto had done of the same episodes - so CF&B is, in a sense, the logical extension of what "Puto-F" was.

This is not a matter of resubbing for the sake of resubbing, but there doesn't seem to be ANY other complete set of R1 subs covering 1-123, and the fansubs were often ancient, sometimes being 10 years old and encoded in DivX 3.11 (remember that? me neither) based on laserdisc and HK rips, because DVDs of those eps didn't even *exist* then. You can't draw blood out of a stone - A-Conan could only do so much because of the limitations that existed at the time. I didn't have those limitations. And I didn't feel right leaving subs around that I felt even I could easily improve on.

A-Conan subs were good for their time, and they're still good for what they are. But they're clearly long in the tooth now. I didn't feel they were sacrosanct, that I shouldn't try to do better just because they existed and were "good enough".

Re: AConan Vs CF&B Subs

Posted: January 14th, 2014, 4:33 am
by b8ajenai
So what you're saying is, I gotta re-download about a 150 episodes because there's better versions out now. Thanks a lot, jerks! :P

Re: AConan Vs CF&B Subs

Posted: January 14th, 2014, 2:10 pm
by anecdotic event
Thanks everyone looks like I will download CF&B :)