Shinichi Better With Shiho?

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Re: Shinichi Better With Shiho?

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KaitoKid0 wrote: Ok again maybe you didn't understand. I didn't say it was a fact that they will or should be together. Im just saying its fact that shinichi is better with shiho because its more entertaining with them together. I mean like ok shinichi and ran get together...then what? probably nothing . They'd probably lead a normal life together. With shiho i can guarente that that would be entertaining and imagine how smart their kids will be .
Seems like you are mixed up after all...

Fact:
1. something that actually exists; reality; truth: Your fears have no basis in fact.  
2. something known to exist or to have happened: Space travel is now a fact.  
3. a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true: Scientists gather facts about plant growth.  
4. something said to be true or supposed to have happened: The facts given by the witness are highly questionable.  5. Law. Often, facts. an actual or alleged event or circumstance, as distinguished from its legal effect or consequence. Compare question of fact, question of law.

opinion:
1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.
3. the formal expression of a professional judgment: to ask for a second medical opinion.  
4. Law. the formal statement by a judge or court of the reasoning and the principles of law used in reaching a decision of a case.
5. a judgment or estimate of a person or thing with respect to character, merit, etc.: to forfeit someone's good opinion.  
6. a favorable estimate; esteem: I haven't much of an opinion of him.


If you want, here is an example: Person A thinks that character X is better with character Z, but person B disagrees. It's person A's opinion that character X is better with character Z, and it's person B's opinion that the two characters don't fit together.
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ssjup81 wrote:
soratothamax wrote:Ran would annoy the hell out of me if I were Shinichi! How do I know? I'm a Taurus like Shinichi!JK :D
Personally, a character like Shinichi's would annoy me because of his selfishness, but his good points would make up for the bad ones.  That aside, just because you're a Taurus doesn't mean that every single Taurus is the same.  My mother's a Leo, but she's not stereotypically outgoing at all.  Now her younger sister (who happens to be a Leo as well [July 24; my mother's bday is July 29]) is very outgoing and extroverted and outspoken.
Okay yea that is a bad way to make a point.......I don't know. I think each character has their flaws, but I just don't like to see Ran with Shinichi. It really does bore me, annoy me, and I just find her too demanding and clingy.
I don't find Ran demanding or clingy.  IMO, she hasn't been shown enough for this.  Thinking about the guy you like is normal for a girl.  Wanting his attention is also normal.  And her being clingy...since Shinichi keeps "disappearing", I don't blame her.  Prior to the Conan stuff, no, she didn't come across that way.

I still don't see how anyone can find a fictional pairing annoying. 

That aside, as far as I know, in Japan, they pair up mostly based on blood-type, not the astrological signs that those in the west use.
There is nothing wrong with that. Just not cool when it comes to Shinichi's style...she kind of cramps his style....
I don't see how.  He was on a date with the girl...she "understood" Shinichi enough to let him go and investigate a murder since that's how he is in general.  Too bad the drug wore off and Conan returned with "Shinichi-niichan's credit card" because he had to, once again, "rush off".  How would that be cramping Shinichi's style when we've never seen Ran ordering or demanding Shinichi to stay back with her?  I know she'd prefer it, but she's never been shown getting in the way of his investigations.
Ai/Conan is much more entertaining and has evolved. It seems more complex and fascinating to me. It has such underlying meaning. It's subtle.
I'll agree with this. This is why I find Conan x Ai a more interesting pair than Shinichi x Ran, even though I like Shinichi x Ran too, but, I'd never put down one pairing or make stuff up to use as proof for another.
And they both seem to be so much a like, and yet so different, it's funny... ;D
Yep yep.  Very much so. lol
Ran doesn't seem to have that same spark. It seems she only loves him because they grew up together and she admires him....which is like fangirl to me....
No...a fangirl to me wouldn't argue with him.  A fangirl wouldn't criticize him.  A fangirl wouldn't threaten him as a reminder of a promise he made to take her to the amusement park.  There's nothing wrong with admiring a friend.  Ran seems to admire Sonoko at times, but I doubt she's a 'fangirl' of her.
No don't do it! Don't fall for my sarcastic opinions!

No, really, I'm not claiming I act like Shinichi because I'm a Taurus. It was a joke (Note: JK at the end of the sentence ;D). Besides I'm born May 9, so that would make my ruling planet Mars. Shinichi is May 4, the 4 makes his ruling planet Uranus....like my father...who was a selfish man, I'll have you know...

Your mom is a Leo but 29 makes her ruling planet the moon, so she likes privacy and space, and she's sensitive....she knows how others feel, and has a good understanding of humanity.....YOU HAVE A GOOD MOTHER! ;) Your mother will only be energetic when it comes to creative endeavors, and fiercely protects what is hers.

Now you mother's younger sister is a Leo but her 24 makes her ruling planet Venus. So she is attractive, dramatic, proud, loyal, and protective of what she loves and has worked hard for. Also, she makes a statement with her attire........

Just something fascinating for the mind, yes?  ;D

Also I think wanting a guy to notice you and admiring him is a natural trait, I agree. And thinking about him too. But demanding him to show his face to her is too demanding for someone who is not dating him. When he comes around, does he have to run directly to Ran? No. But she makes it seem like he should and gets angry when he doesn't visit or call her daily. She needs to cool it down a little, especially from a guy who she is not dating. Not that this is a bad quality all the time, but to me, it is rather annoying. Maybe not to you, but to me, it is.  ;)

When I say cramp his style, I mean make him "sappy."  ;D I don't like his "sappy" side (a side he gets around Ran).  I much prefer his sarcastic, funny, and drier side. I like his personality when he gets around Ai. It's much more natural to me.

But hey, to each it's own. I was just trying to start a war again. This lost it's spark. Just ignore me.  ;D
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Kor wrote:
KaitoKid0 wrote: Ok again maybe you didn't understand. I didn't say it was a fact that they will or should be together. Im just saying its fact that shinichi is better with shiho because its more entertaining with them together. I mean like ok shinichi and ran get together...then what? probably nothing . They'd probably lead a normal life together. With shiho i can guarente that that would be entertaining and imagine how smart their kids will be .
Seems like you are mixed up after all...

Fact:
1. something that actually exists; reality; truth: Your fears have no basis in fact. 
2. something known to exist or to have happened: Space travel is now a fact. 
3. a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true: Scientists gather facts about plant growth. 
4. something said to be true or supposed to have happened: The facts given by the witness are highly questionable.  5. Law. Often, facts. an actual or alleged event or circumstance, as distinguished from its legal effect or consequence. Compare question of fact, question of law.

opinion:
1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.
3. the formal expression of a professional judgment: to ask for a second medical opinion. 
4. Law. the formal statement by a judge or court of the reasoning and the principles of law used in reaching a decision of a case.
5. a judgment or estimate of a person or thing with respect to character, merit, etc.: to forfeit someone's good opinion. 
6. a favorable estimate; esteem: I haven't much of an opinion of him.


If you want, here is an example: Person A thinks that character X is better with character Z, but person B disagrees. It's person A's opinion that character X is better with character Z, and it's person B's opinion that the two characters don't fit together.
You know what forget i thought you was smart enough to understand what im saying but seems you still don't all you are is being arrogant so forget it. No point in making an ignorant person understand something.
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KaitoKid0 wrote:
Kor wrote:
KaitoKid0 wrote: Ok again maybe you didn't understand. I didn't say it was a fact that they will or should be together. Im just saying its fact that shinichi is better with shiho because its more entertaining with them together. I mean like ok shinichi and ran get together...then what? probably nothing . They'd probably lead a normal life together. With shiho i can guarente that that would be entertaining and imagine how smart their kids will be .
Seems like you are mixed up after all...

Fact:
1. something that actually exists; reality; truth: Your fears have no basis in fact.  
2. something known to exist or to have happened: Space travel is now a fact.  
3. a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true: Scientists gather facts about plant growth.  
4. something said to be true or supposed to have happened: The facts given by the witness are highly questionable.  5. Law. Often, facts. an actual or alleged event or circumstance, as distinguished from its legal effect or consequence. Compare question of fact, question of law.

opinion:
1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.
3. the formal expression of a professional judgment: to ask for a second medical opinion.  
4. Law. the formal statement by a judge or court of the reasoning and the principles of law used in reaching a decision of a case.
5. a judgment or estimate of a person or thing with respect to character, merit, etc.: to forfeit someone's good opinion.  
6. a favorable estimate; esteem: I haven't much of an opinion of him.


If you want, here is an example: Person A thinks that character X is better with character Z, but person B disagrees. It's person A's opinion that character X is better with character Z, and it's person B's opinion that the two characters don't fit together.
You know what forget i thought you was smart enough to understand what im saying but seems you still don't all you are is being arrogant so forget it. No point in making an ignorant person understand something.
Oh no, that's so terrible, I was insulted by that guy who no one really likes, what am I going to do now? I have no reason to live now that this person who I don't even care for thinks less of me...should I go on...?

if you hadn't used the wrong words time after time maybe people would have understand you better. If I didn't understand you, then it's not me alone, IN THIS VERY PAGE OTHER PEOPLE ALSO DIDN'T UNDERSTAND YOU.
ignorant? Do you even know what that word means? well let's aks mister dictionary shall we?

ignorant:
1. lacking in knowledge or training; unlearned: an ignorant man.  
2. lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact: ignorant of quantum physics.  
3. uninformed; unaware.
4. due to or showing lack of knowledge or training: an ignorant statement.

So let's see. in knowledge and training, I don't lack. finished high school  ;)
so it may be that the ignorancy that you said I have may be in a particular subject? if so would you please clarify which subject that would be?
uninformed? Well that maybe, so if I'm uninformed then the only solution is that you should inform me and then we'd solve my little ignorancy problem.

now number 4 may appeal to what you are referring to, but then again you had stated something as a fact which was actually an opinion, so that goes to you as well.

Don't be shy, we are all ignorants after all, let's deal with our ignorance together  ;D


BTW
You don't say "I thought you was smart." you say "I thought you were smart" after all we have to fix ignorancy somewhere right?

edit: I have taken no offense from you, trying to insult me, since I'm not the first one you called names here and probably not the last.
just an advice: If you go to insulting and cursing people after small teases, that's your problem, not mine, or anyone else. So please for the sake of the whole universe, try to learn some social skills before you join a forum.
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...so.  Close thread?
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Ok again maybe you didn't understand. I didn't say it was a fact that they will or should be together. Im just saying its fact that shinichi is better with shiho because its more entertaining with them together. I mean like ok shinichi and ran get together...then what? probably nothing . They'd probably lead a normal life together. With shiho i can guarente that that would be entertaining and imagine how smart their kids will be.
For clarification, I know that you didn't say that it was fact that they should be together. I'm just saying that you are stating an opinion, not fact.
Abs. wrote: ...so.  Close thread?
Maybe but other people might want to join in... XD

I can't believe fictional pairings would cause so much drama. lol
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meitantei_mayu wrote:
Ok again maybe you didn't understand. I didn't say it was a fact that they will or should be together. Im just saying its fact that shinichi is better with shiho because its more entertaining with them together. I mean like ok shinichi and ran get together...then what? probably nothing . They'd probably lead a normal life together. With shiho i can guarente that that would be entertaining and imagine how smart their kids will be.
For clarification, I know that you didn't say that it was fact that they should be together. I'm just saying that you are stating an opinion, not fact.
Abs. wrote: ...so.  Close thread?
Maybe but other people might want to join in... XD

I can't believe fictional pairings would cause so much drama. lol


Well techically. You saying that me saying it is a "fact" is an opinion, is an opinion itself. And really it wouldn't bin so much drama people would stop "correcting" me but w/e the worlds not perfect. Time to move on right? ;)
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XD This kind of issues never seem to die. Yup, time to move on...

I suppose this kind of issues make DC more interesting.  :)
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KaitoKid0 wrote:
Kor wrote:
KaitoKid0 wrote: Ok again maybe you didn't understand. I didn't say it was a fact that they will or should be together. Im just saying its fact that shinichi is better with shiho because its more entertaining with them together. I mean like ok shinichi and ran get together...then what? probably nothing . They'd probably lead a normal life together. With shiho i can guarente that that would be entertaining and imagine how smart their kids will be .
Seems like you are mixed up after all...

Fact:
1. something that actually exists; reality; truth: Your fears have no basis in fact. 
2. something known to exist or to have happened: Space travel is now a fact. 
3. a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true: Scientists gather facts about plant growth. 
4. something said to be true or supposed to have happened: The facts given by the witness are highly questionable.  5. Law. Often, facts. an actual or alleged event or circumstance, as distinguished from its legal effect or consequence. Compare question of fact, question of law.

opinion:
1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.
3. the formal expression of a professional judgment: to ask for a second medical opinion. 
4. Law. the formal statement by a judge or court of the reasoning and the principles of law used in reaching a decision of a case.
5. a judgment or estimate of a person or thing with respect to character, merit, etc.: to forfeit someone's good opinion. 
6. a favorable estimate; esteem: I haven't much of an opinion of him.


If you want, here is an example: Person A thinks that character X is better with character Z, but person B disagrees. It's person A's opinion that character X is better with character Z, and it's person B's opinion that the two characters don't fit together.
You know what forget i thought you was smart enough to understand what im saying but seems you still don't all you are is being arrogant so forget it. No point in making an ignorant person understand something.
Actually, I understand exactly what you're saying. You are saying you have evidence that Shiho is more compatible with Shinichi. That evidence can continue on to make it a fact. Just because someone loves another does not make them COMPATIBLE.

Just because Shinichi and Ran love each other and have known each other a longer time does not make them compatible NOR does it mean they have anything in common.

What is evident, a fact that backs up your claim, is that Shiho and Shinichi have more in common:
Shinichi and Haibara are both intellectuals, they are both involved with the BO, they have both been shrunken into a kindergarten state before in their lifetime, they both like soccor, they both like to read a lot, they both know about criminals, they have parents who have traveled the world and lived in different countries, they've both lived on their own.........

This shows that they have more in common, which can back up your claim, and therefore BECOME A FACT that they are more compatible and can work if they decide because they would agree and understand one another on so many levels. It's a good argument.

It is a fact that shinichi and Shiho have more in common. With enough evidence, you can prove they are compatible too with that fact, as most people can live better with people who understand them.  ;)

Ran and Shinichi are familiar with each other's habits, and know all about the other, but they still don't seem to view the world the same way. They have different experiences now. There is a barrier to communication within the story because Ran hasn't really talked to Shinichi in a long time (not the real one, least ways) which creates rifts between characters. Also, Ran and Shinichi never really had much in common to begin with. They both have morals and ethics. They both like beautiful things. They grew up together and know some of the same old friends.......they have a comfortability level.

Then again, Shinichi's social circle has changed since he got involved with the BO. He knows different people that Ran can't truly fathom, no matter if she is introduced.

See, the circumstance at hand has caused Shiho to have more in common with Shinichi because of the life they have experienced together, which Ran will never truly understand. She is broken a part from that world of Shinichi. That side has changed him too. She might like the change, but still see a distance from him too......

Many facts begin with opinions. With enough evidence, and testing, they can become facts.  ;)

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soratothamax wrote:
KaitoKid0 wrote:
Kor wrote:
KaitoKid0 wrote: Ok again maybe you didn't understand. I didn't say it was a fact that they will or should be together. Im just saying its fact that shinichi is better with shiho because its more entertaining with them together. I mean like ok shinichi and ran get together...then what? probably nothing . They'd probably lead a normal life together. With shiho i can guarente that that would be entertaining and imagine how smart their kids will be .
Seems like you are mixed up after all...

Fact:
1. something that actually exists; reality; truth: Your fears have no basis in fact. 
2. something known to exist or to have happened: Space travel is now a fact. 
3. a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true: Scientists gather facts about plant growth. 
4. something said to be true or supposed to have happened: The facts given by the witness are highly questionable.  5. Law. Often, facts. an actual or alleged event or circumstance, as distinguished from its legal effect or consequence. Compare question of fact, question of law.

opinion:
1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.
3. the formal expression of a professional judgment: to ask for a second medical opinion. 
4. Law. the formal statement by a judge or court of the reasoning and the principles of law used in reaching a decision of a case.
5. a judgment or estimate of a person or thing with respect to character, merit, etc.: to forfeit someone's good opinion. 
6. a favorable estimate; esteem: I haven't much of an opinion of him.


If you want, here is an example: Person A thinks that character X is better with character Z, but person B disagrees. It's person A's opinion that character X is better with character Z, and it's person B's opinion that the two characters don't fit together.
You know what forget i thought you was smart enough to understand what im saying but seems you still don't all you are is being arrogant so forget it. No point in making an ignorant person understand something.
Actually, I understand exactly what you're saying. You are saying you have evidence that Shiho is more compatible with Shinichi. That evidence can continue on to make it a fact. Just because someone loves another does not make them COMPATIBLE.

Just because Shinichi and Ran love each other and have known each other a longer time does not make them compatible NOR does it mean they have anything in common.

What is evident, a fact that backs up your claim, is that Shiho and Shinichi have more in common:
Shinichi and Haibara are both intellectuals, they are both involved with the BO, they have both been shrunken into a kindergarten state before in their lifetime, they both like soccor, they both like to read a lot, they both know about criminals, they have parents who have traveled the world and lived in different countries, they've both lived on their own.........

This shows that they have more in common, which can back up your claim, and therefore BECOME A FACT that they are more compatible and can work if they decide because they would agree and understand one another on so many levels. It's a good argument.

It is a fact that shinichi and Shiho have more in common. With enough evidence, you can prove they are compatible too with that fact, as most people can live better with people who understand them.  ;)

Ran and Shinichi are familiar with each other's habits, and know all about the other, but they still don't seem to view the world the same way. They have different experiences now. There is a barrier to communication within the story because Ran hasn't really talked to Shinichi in a long time (not the real one, least ways) which creates rifts between characters. Also, Ran and Shinichi never really had much in common to begin with. They both have morals and ethics. They both like beautiful things. They grew up together and know some of the same old friends.......they have a comfortability level.

Then again, Shinichi's social circle has changed since he got involved with the BO. He knows different people that Ran can't truly fathom, no matter if she is introduced.

See, the circumstance at hand has caused Shiho to have more in common with Shinichi because of the life they have experienced together, which Ran will never truly understand. She is broken a part from that world of Shinichi. That side has changed him too. She might like the change, but still see a distance from him too......

Many facts begin with opinions. With enough evidence, and testing, they can become facts.  ;)

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unfortunately, that still doesn't make it a fact. Until Gosho states, or conan says that he fits more with Haibara than with Ran, this is just an opinion. As far as we know, Conan can say in the next file, that he doesn't think that he and Haibara fit together and something will never happen between them, then what will be with the proof that they fit together? It's true that facts started as opinions, but it took a lot of time for them to become facts. You can't just state that your opinion is a fact, even if you have some evidance to back it up, other people may think otherwise. It's true that Shinichi may fit with Shiho, but then you have to ask yourself, why doesn't he then want to be with Shiho instead of Ran? Because he wants to be with Ran. Why does he want to be with Ran? Maybe he thinks that they fit to each other? Then even if it may be true that he and Shiho fit more to each other, he doesn't think so.

Shinichi will end up with Ran at the end. why? because that's the direction that the series has gone in all the time, is that enough of the proof to make it a fact? no, because it didn't happen yet so it can't be a fact yet.
It's not like math that 1+1 has to be 2, or it is not like there is a specific evidance that the sun one day will explode so it will explode, it's a pairing in an anime, and the only one who knows and can give the facts is only Gosho. fans can presume and give their opinions, but they can't state facts on their own even if there is enough evidance.

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Spoiler:
A member in the forum made a list of proofs why Okiya is probably Akai. even though there is enough evidance to prove it, it's still not a fact because Gosho didn't reveal the real truth to us
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Kor wrote:
soratothamax wrote:
KaitoKid0 wrote:
Kor wrote:
KaitoKid0 wrote: Ok again maybe you didn't understand. I didn't say it was a fact that they will or should be together. Im just saying its fact that shinichi is better with shiho because its more entertaining with them together. I mean like ok shinichi and ran get together...then what? probably nothing . They'd probably lead a normal life together. With shiho i can guarente that that would be entertaining and imagine how smart their kids will be .
Seems like you are mixed up after all...

Fact:
1. something that actually exists; reality; truth: Your fears have no basis in fact. 
2. something known to exist or to have happened: Space travel is now a fact. 
3. a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true: Scientists gather facts about plant growth. 
4. something said to be true or supposed to have happened: The facts given by the witness are highly questionable.  5. Law. Often, facts. an actual or alleged event or circumstance, as distinguished from its legal effect or consequence. Compare question of fact, question of law.

opinion:
1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.
3. the formal expression of a professional judgment: to ask for a second medical opinion. 
4. Law. the formal statement by a judge or court of the reasoning and the principles of law used in reaching a decision of a case.
5. a judgment or estimate of a person or thing with respect to character, merit, etc.: to forfeit someone's good opinion. 
6. a favorable estimate; esteem: I haven't much of an opinion of him.


If you want, here is an example: Person A thinks that character X is better with character Z, but person B disagrees. It's person A's opinion that character X is better with character Z, and it's person B's opinion that the two characters don't fit together.
You know what forget i thought you was smart enough to understand what im saying but seems you still don't all you are is being arrogant so forget it. No point in making an ignorant person understand something.
Actually, I understand exactly what you're saying. You are saying you have evidence that Shiho is more compatible with Shinichi. That evidence can continue on to make it a fact. Just because someone loves another does not make them COMPATIBLE.

Just because Shinichi and Ran love each other and have known each other a longer time does not make them compatible NOR does it mean they have anything in common.

What is evident, a fact that backs up your claim, is that Shiho and Shinichi have more in common:
Shinichi and Haibara are both intellectuals, they are both involved with the BO, they have both been shrunken into a kindergarten state before in their lifetime, they both like soccor, they both like to read a lot, they both know about criminals, they have parents who have traveled the world and lived in different countries, they've both lived on their own.........

This shows that they have more in common, which can back up your claim, and therefore BECOME A FACT that they are more compatible and can work if they decide because they would agree and understand one another on so many levels. It's a good argument.

It is a fact that shinichi and Shiho have more in common. With enough evidence, you can prove they are compatible too with that fact, as most people can live better with people who understand them.  ;)

Ran and Shinichi are familiar with each other's habits, and know all about the other, but they still don't seem to view the world the same way. They have different experiences now. There is a barrier to communication within the story because Ran hasn't really talked to Shinichi in a long time (not the real one, least ways) which creates rifts between characters. Also, Ran and Shinichi never really had much in common to begin with. They both have morals and ethics. They both like beautiful things. They grew up together and know some of the same old friends.......they have a comfortability level.

Then again, Shinichi's social circle has changed since he got involved with the BO. He knows different people that Ran can't truly fathom, no matter if she is introduced.

See, the circumstance at hand has caused Shiho to have more in common with Shinichi because of the life they have experienced together, which Ran will never truly understand. She is broken a part from that world of Shinichi. That side has changed him too. She might like the change, but still see a distance from him too......

Many facts begin with opinions. With enough evidence, and testing, they can become facts.  ;)

I'M A KNOW-IT-ALL!!!!!

unfortunately, that still doesn't make it a fact. Until Gosho states, or conan says that he fits more with Haibara than with Ran, this is just an opinion. As far as we know, Conan can say in the next file, that he doesn't think that he and Haibara fit together and something will never happen between them, then what will be with the proof that they fit together? It's true that facts started as opinions, but it took a lot of time for them to become facts. You can't just state that your opinion is a fact, even if you have some evidance to back it up, other people may think otherwise. It's true that Shinichi may fit with Shiho, but then you have to ask yourself, why doesn't he then want to be with Shiho instead of Ran? Because he wants to be with Ran. Why does he want to be with Ran? Maybe he thinks that they fit to each other? Then even if it may be true that he and Shiho fit more to each other, he doesn't think so.

Shinichi will end up with Ran at the end. why? because that's the direction that the series has gone in all the time, is that enough of the proof to make it a fact? no, because it didn't happen yet so it can't be a fact yet.
It's not like math that 1+1 has to be 2, or it is not like there is a specific evidance that the sun one day will explode so it will explode, it's a pairing in an anime, and the only one who knows and can give the facts is only Gosho. fans can presume and give their opinions, but they can't state facts on their own even if there is enough evidance.

manga spoiler:
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A member in the forum made a list of proofs why Okiya is probably Akai. even though there is enough evidance to prove it, it's still not a fact because Gosho didn't reveal the real truth to us
lmao wow you still don't understand and you know i don't think you ever will it takes a lot of common sense to begin to understand.
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Re: Shinichi Better With Shiho?

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meitantei_mayu wrote: I can't believe fictional pairings would cause so much drama. lol
Yes, there seems to be lots of fictional drama being created from this dramatic fiction.  
(or is it the other way around?)  ;D

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(I can imagine the anti-ShinxRan group having a field-day with this screenshot!)  ;)
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Re: Shinichi Better With Shiho?

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lol@pairings. I think we're done here, yes?
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