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Abs. wrote: I'm getting more and more convinced that Haibara/Sherry/Miyano Shiho will either have to die off in the end, or disappear forever.

She can't have a real relationship with any of the kids in her kid form (too unnatural - also, think about all the lies and secrets), and if she returned to her adult form, she would probably have to be prosecuted for her involvement with the organization (unless the organization ceases to exist, leaving no traces behind that could link her to anything illegal *ahem* making poisons that have killed.. how many people already?)
You mean she developed a drug, and someone used it kill lots of people, there fore she should be held responsible for what happened? Lots of medicinal chemist will be convicted if that's how the court rule....
i don't think it would work, she's much ore compatible with shinichi both on a physical and mental level, which makes me wonder what shinichi and ran have in common, shinichi is far superior on a mental level, and ran is far superior on a physical level, (yes karate is physically superior to soccer).

Not just "someone used it" - even if she didn't intend to make a poison, she knew that the organization was using it as a poison, and was responsible for confirming the effectiveness of the poison (confirming death of poisoned victim).  å°‘ã
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...back to the point, seriously do you think Haibara/Sherry, being as smart as she is, would endure going through all those years of dum-dum school again?  Sure, it's different compared to American schooling, but seriously?  Maybe that thought alone is what's driving her to try to commit suicide sacrifice herself for the sake of the others.

Basically, the pairing won't happen, because she won't stay as Haibara forever.
That's not so basic, because it didn't happen yet and it's just a mere assumption on your side. There just too many times that shows that Haibara enjoys going to the school with the kids. If you try to ignore all of these times, fine. And commit suicie because of that? why would she commit suicide over something she likes?

1) To sum up, she'll gate the highest grades every time because she already knows everything, so studing isn't her problem.
2) She likes to go to school and have friends, even if they are not developed as her.
3) She got the life that she always wanted. Why would she let that go?
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can someone show me a cute moment between them? coz seriously this pairing is retarded
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KaitoKid0 wrote: can someone show me a cute moment between them? coz seriously this pairing is retarded
try 212 and 213
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KaitoKid0 wrote: can someone show me a cute moment between them? coz seriously this pairing is retarded
as much as I hate this pair..there are some episodes that refer to aixmit...

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I think....213? was it?  the one when regarding the Bear, that was when mitsuhiko first fell head over heels for the mysterious haibara-san.

Throughout the series mitty has said stuff/ subtle hints kind of like ai to conan.

Recently, in the introduction of Okai, Ai-chan abuses Mit's crush on her XD
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Uses him as a "meat shield" basically so she can take a closer look at Okai, lol I love how she did seduced Mitsuhiko too, held two hands to his face.  Unfortunately, Ai was too aggresive in her spying and pushed Mitsuhiko down to the ground. lol
But, I mean so far there has been no evidence...nothing at all really that Ai feels the same way to Mitsuhiko, its very much like an AyumiXConan
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ranger wrote:
as much as I hate this pair..
I second to that :D
ranger wrote: there are some episodes that refer to aixmit...

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I think....213? was it?  the one when regarding the Bear, that was when mitsuhiko first fell head over heels for the mysterious haibara-san.

Throughout the series mitty has said stuff/ subtle hints kind of like ai to conan.

Recently, in the introduction of Okai, Ai-chan abuses Mit's crush on her XD
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Uses him as a "meat shield" basically so she can take a closer look at Okai, lol I love how she did seduced Mitsuhiko too, held two hands to his face.  Unfortunately, Ai was too aggresive in her spying and pushed Mitsuhiko down to the ground. lol
But, I mean so far there has been no evidence...nothing at all really that Ai feels the same way to Mitsuhiko, its very much like an AyumiXConan
And the statistics still tipped on Conan over Mitsuhiko

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KaitoKid0 wrote: can someone show me a cute moment between them? coz seriously this pairing is retarded
try 212 and 213
really? coz to me those episode were just proof that this couple wouldn't work coz it was focused on making mitsuhiko jealous and hinting at conanxai

sure there were funny moments between the too...but romantic moments? cute moments? nope
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In the Ai+Conan thread, people said that they sometime read between the lines or see things that none AiCon fans may not see (or they choose to see things that are not always correct) so I think this case comes out in this pair as well. An AiCon fan may say that there aren't many moments because he either choose to not see a certain moment as a true moment or an MitsuAi fan may choose see that certain moment as a "moment"

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sure there were funny moments between the too...but romantic moments? cute moments? nope
Are you seriously searching for romantic moments between the two? A little boy can't be romantic and if he can, then only in the cute way. Not the way that may satisfy Ai.
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KaitoKid0 wrote: can someone show me a cute moment between them? coz seriously this pairing is retarded
try 212 and 213
really? coz to me those episode were just proof that this couple wouldn't work coz it was focused on making mitsuhiko jealous and hinting at conanxai

sure there were funny moments between the too...but romantic moments? cute moments? nope
there was that line when haibara hurt her ankle, and after mitshuhiko wrapped it she said "right now your my outstanding rescuer" i think that was a cute moment
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...back to the point, seriously do you think Haibara/Sherry, being as smart as she is, would endure going through all those years of dum-dum school again?  Sure, it's different compared to American schooling, but seriously?  Maybe that thought alone is what's driving her to try to commit suicide sacrifice herself for the sake of the others.

Basically, the pairing won't happen, because she won't stay as Haibara forever.
That's not so basic, because it didn't happen yet and it's just a mere assumption on your side. There just too many times that shows that Haibara enjoys going to the school with the kids. If you try to ignore all of these times, fine. And commit suicie because of that? why would she commit suicide over something she likes?

1) To sum up, she'll gate the highest grades every time because she already knows everything, so studing isn't her problem.
2) She likes to go to school and have friends, even if they are not developed as her.
3) She got the life that she always wanted. Why would she let that go?
Ok, I'll allow that it's not so basic, because you're right, no one knows what kind of ending Aoyama-sensei will create for Haibara/Sherry/Miyano Shiho.

However. 

1) She probably already got the highest grades every time when she went through school the first time.  Remember?  She's pretty smart.
2) She enjoys hanging out with the DB every so often, because they are so innocent and carefree; often, she ends up learning from them.  This is similar to the situation in a classroom with the teacher and the students.  She does not need to stay as Haibara forever to experience the same kind of thing.  Yes, they are her friends now, but she's still often antisocial - she has other, more important things to do than hang around with Conan and the DB.  (Remember how she's been working on stuff late at night all the time and never gets any rest?  I can assure you she's not doing her 1st year homework.)
3) The life she'd always wanted?  That'd probably have to include her parents and her sister being around.  I don't see them around anywhere (yet?).

The committing suicide part was a joke.  But you're assuming too much by saying that she likes being a 1st year again and the idea of having to go through the last 10 years of her life over again.  Just because someone goes to school in a foreign country under the supervision of an organization that engages in illegal activity doesn't automatically mean that they had a terrible childhood/upbringing.



All that aside, Mitsuhiko's a good guy.  But I'll join those that say a pairing between Haibara and him is akin to a pairing between Conan and Ayumi.  Sure, Haibara doesn't have her Ran, but for argument's sake, let's say Ran died or something - would Conan/Shinichi end up with Ayumi instead?  Seriously.
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But you're assuming too much by saying that she likes being a 1st year again and the idea of having to go through the last 10 years of her life over again.  Just because someone goes to school in a foreign country under the supervision of an organization that engages in illegal activity doesn't automatically mean that they had a terrible childhood/upbringing.
Seriously, does anyone think Shino had a good childhood? We don't even know if she went to a normal school or if the BO restriced her contact to the outside by assigning her a private tutor or something. And even if she did, I doubt she was allowed to make any friends. To me it seems like her whole live her sister was the only person where she felt loved.
Now, during her second childhood as Ai she had already made some good friends and she has time for the things she wants - and except for her fear from the BO she can decide to have the normal childhood she never had now.

What should she return to Shino for anyway? Her parents and sister are dead. And I doubt they will be alive again just because she becomes big again. The stuff that she is doing is probably looking for an antidote. I don't think she has much fun doing so, but because she feels like she owes it to Conan and maybe because she feels like she needs a secrect weapon during her next confrontation with the BO.
When she returns to be Shino she loses the best disguise she can have to hide her from the BO. Either she will live in constant fear then, hidding and avoiding any contact to strangers... or the BO is destroyed completly (a feat that she doesn't believe is possible). Anyway as soon as she has finished that antidote she has no reason to research in that field anymore. Basically all she gains as SHino is her adult body while she loses a lot.
A little boy can't be romantic and if he can, then only in the cute way. Not the way that may satisfy Ai.
Satisfy Ai? To me it doesn't look like she was ever in love with anyone (except for that sister-sister bond with Akemi), so what do you expect to "satisfy her". During episode 289-290 (manga 35-8 to 35-10), where Mitsuhiko went alone into that forrest... to me it seems like she really appreciated his effords. This was his idea of romance... and even if it was a bit childish I think it was very cute. Ai probably thought so too.
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Schillok wrote:
But you're assuming too much by saying that she likes being a 1st year again and the idea of having to go through the last 10 years of her life over again.  Just because someone goes to school in a foreign country under the supervision of an organization that engages in illegal activity doesn't automatically mean that they had a terrible childhood/upbringing.
Seriously, does anyone think Shino had a good childhood? We don't even know if she went to a normal school or if the BO restriced her contact to the outside by assigning her a private tutor or something. And even if she did, I doubt she was allowed to make any friends. To me it seems like her whole live her sister was the only person where she felt loved.
I don't have the original Japanese version of the particular volume on hand to quote directly, but in "Genta's Misfortune(/Disaster/Calamity, etc)" she tells Shinichi that she went to a school in America where the students didn't all eat together in the cafeteria, but it was more like a "get your own food and sit where you like" - and she always sat alone.

From this, we can probably deduce that she went to a school with other students, and did not have a private tutor.

If she was "not allowed to make any friends," this raises another question - not allowed by whom?  Who was watching her/caring for her needs/etc. while she was in America?  <-- This is actually a question that I'd like to know the answer to regardless if she was allowed to make friends or not.

I'd also like to know if her eating alone was by choice, or what.  Was it because she was the weird foreign girl?  Was it because she was forbidden to make friends (and if so, how did she discourage the other students?)  Was it because she was too smart?  Was it because she had a rotten personality?  Was it because she was shunned by everyone?  Was it because a man in black followed her everywhere she went, which led to rumors and fear?
Basically all she gains as SHino is her adult body while she loses a lot.
How about her IDENTITY.  Staying as Haibara is the EXACT SAME THING as being in the Witness Protection Program.  ホラã€
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Basically all she gains as SHino is her adult body while she loses a lot.
How about her IDENTITY.  Staying as Haibara is the EXACT SAME THING as being in the Witness Protection Program.  ホラã€
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Kor wrote: In the Ai+Conan thread, people said that they sometime read between the lines or see things that none AiCon fans may not see (or they choose to see things that are not always correct) so I think this case comes out in this pair as well. An AiCon fan may say that there aren't many moments because he either choose to not see a certain moment as a true moment or an MitsuAi fan may choose see that certain moment as a "moment"

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sure there were funny moments between the too...but romantic moments? cute moments? nope
Are you seriously searching for romantic moments between the two? A little boy can't be romantic and if he can, then only in the cute way. Not the way that may satisfy Ai.
lol dude there isnt any reading between the this pairing..its just a stupid pairing they have no moments..probably like one in 212-213 but even then the topic of conan was discussed
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Abs. wrote: I'm getting more and more convinced that Haibara/Sherry/Miyano Shiho will either have to die off in the end, or disappear forever.

She can't have a real relationship with any of the kids in her kid form (too unnatural - also, think about all the lies and secrets), and if she returned to her adult form, she would probably have to be prosecuted for her involvement with the organization (unless the organization ceases to exist, leaving no traces behind that could link her to anything illegal *ahem* making poisons that have killed.. how many people already?)
Why would Gosho kill her off or make her disappear forever? Just because he can't find a good enough match for her?
And I don't think she should be prosecuted. She was forced to make that drug; it was not her intention. And she's not to be hold responsible for Gin's impatience and "let's try this drug on people even though it's still on its testing process" attitude. She, herself, said that testing the drug on people while it was still in its experimental phase was one of the reasons why she disliked the organization.

Abs. wrote: It's past naïve to say that she feels horrible, guilty, and responsible.  It was an accident.  She was trying to develop something else.  That something else accidentally turned out to be a poison, which had a little-known accidental side effect of instantly reverse-aging the body.  If anything, she's amused by the whole thing.
Amused? If someone happens to read this post before watching episode 129+, they'd think Haibara is nothing but an evil "witch" who's more interested in her stupid "poison" than the people she cares about. Ever since her first discussion with Conan in Agasa's house, she showed how guilty she felt; and she showed that more later on, when she said: "I don't want you to call me a murderer anymore". I think it's pretty obvious she feels bad for what she did; even though she was forced, she still feels responsible for what happened. I don't think she's amused knowing people suffered/are suffering because of her drug.

TheBlind wrote: Disagree on both points. I know everyone likes to compare Ai to Emerald(?) from Yaiba but people forget that Ai has something Emerald didn't have, Akai. Yeah, as of now he's dead but until it's 100% confirmed, chances are Akai won't let her die since he already feels guilt for causing Akemi's death. Even if it means taking the bullet himself.
True. And she also has Conan, he did promise to protect her; I don't think Gosho will forget about that.

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KaitoKid0 wrote: can someone show me a cute moment between them? coz seriously this pairing is retarded
try 212 and 213
really? coz to me those episode were just proof that this couple wouldn't work coz it was focused on making mitsuhiko jealous and hinting at conanxai

sure there were funny moments between the too...but romantic moments? cute moments? nope
Romantic moments? Erm, they're supposed to be kids.
Cute moments? There are quite a few actually, here's one:

Mtsuhiko, after bandaging Haibara's foot: Conan-kun showed this to me. He knows everything, he's amazing. He's also a great leader. I'm not even close to being like him. *Feeling down*
Haibara: Baka ne! The most important thing is that you know this knowledge and can use it after learning it. At this moment, you're my outstanding rescuer. Thanks for your help. *Mitsuhiko blushing*

That was a cute moment. It's up to you to admit it or not.

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As for my own opinion about AiXMitsuhiko: I think it's a cute couple; not my favorite, but definitely worth a shot. And Mitsuhiko just happens to be my favorite from the DB (if we exclude Ai and Conan of course); because he's actually smart enough to learn from the various experiences he got through with the DB. Who knows, maybe when he grows up, he can become a great detective. Let's not forget that even Shinichi wasn't that bright when he was younger. He grew up much smarter; the same thing could happen to Mitsuhiko.
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