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Akonyl wrote: oh god, this is just like that one prank... I'm gonna spend ages looking for Region 3.
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Gamer1104 wrote: Money grubbing company? Really? You do realize that they're a business? And in this business, FUNi produces DVDs?  And in order to license more shows and in order to release them here, they'd have to sell the DVDs they produce and make money on them?  And you do also realize that they're releasing anime and that anime rarely sells as much as a "money grubbing" company would like, correct? Geez, this is the worst argument I have ever heard for fansubs...
every company is interested in money...what's so odd about that? "Let's bring Sailor Moon, after all it's such a huge hit in Japan. So what if we edit and cut mercylessly and change the names?" and they couldn't even do the fifth season.... "Let's bring Detective Conan. It's a hit in Japan so it will obviously work for us as well" and now is the result (I don't remember who dubbed Sailor Moon)
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Ctu wrote: I thought reg 1 covered japan as well? Or am I just wrong?
That's just for Blueray.  For DVD, region 1 is USA and Canada.  Japan is in region 2, which also includes most of western europe, the middle east, and a few other places.  The aforementioned Australia is in region 4, along with New Zealand, Mexico, and South America.
BTW how is the Jap audio in the CC release? Is it just as good as the Japanese release or dose it get the short end of the stick for the bad dub?
Why would the Japanese audio be affected by someone's opinion of the dub quality?  The only time it gets the "short end of the stick" is on movies 3+, where it's merely not used to its utmost capabilities (ie: it's not 5.1 surround sound, but neither are the fansubs).
Oh I first heard japan was R1 after BR came out I guess I now know why.

As for audio I was wondering if they reduse bitrate for the japenese or take a 5.1 source and only doing sterio audio...stuff like that. I have 5.1 speakers on my PC and I would like to properly use them if I were to buy the dvd
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CarpetCrawler wrote: But like I've said before, the manga sells incredibly well, so this may not be the last we hear from Conan.
I think they will be (or already have?) downgrading it from 6 volumes a year to 4, making it impossible for us to ever actually catch up to Japan unless Gosho slows his output. :'(
Kor wrote: Two people in this thread misunderstood/didn't know what region 1 stands for. The best way for it to be clear was just say (in your way) "ONLY FOR THE USA!"
Yeah, and I hope this video is region locked just to drive the point home.
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While I do think the dub can be rather annoying at points, the reason to buy these dvds by Funi is because they are probably the highest quality Americans will find of the first seasons of Detective Conan; the ones online by anime-conan (not sure if this is right) dont have the best quality. 

Of course, there are subs as well on the DVDs, which arguable can't compare with fansubs (except Hong Kong - hype those guys) but, hey, they are still readable and correct.

So, for the dub-haters, the reason to buy these dvds is so Funi can make more dubs, so we can get subbed season 6+.

Something to think about...since fansubbers are a lot more loyal to shows / do a much better job than most anime companies (funi, 4kids..w/e), how come Funi or Viz or w/e have never thought of hiring these fansubbers? I'm sure if they had a team of dedicated fans onboard, the product would be of much higher quality.  Plus, fansubbers get jobs, and voila! so long recession!@!@!


didn't even notice there was a Twilight reference in here.  Shame on you guys for knowing.
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ranger wrote: While I do think the dub can be rather annoying at points, the reason to buy these dvds by Funi is because they are probably the highest quality Americans will find of the first seasons of Detective Conan;
Import DVDs. That way you are supporting the actual animators and writers of the show rather than the people who bought a license to mess the show up. IMO this is what a "true fan" would do, and is an option for fans all over the world, rather than just people in the R1 area.

So, even though they are expensive, you should buy the Japanese DVDs to support the true creators, then watch the fansubs so you can understand the show. :)
ranger wrote: Something to think about...since fansubbers are a lot more loyal to shows / do a much better job than most anime companies (funi, 4kids..w/e), how come Funi or Viz or w/e have never thought of hiring these fansubbers? I'm sure if they had a team of dedicated fans onboard, the product would be of much higher quality.  Plus, fansubbers get jobs, and voila! so long recession!@!@!
While I wouldn't mind getting paid for doing what I already do, this will only work if the anime companies would update their distribution methods. DVD subtitles are in a very primitive form, and have a lot of limitations on them. This wouldn't work for a lot of how fansubbers sub. You'd be stuck to the basic (ugly) yellow subs that are either normal or italicized.

Now, if more companies would do digital-distribution-only, not only would their manufacturing costs drop due to not having to press all those DVDs, they'd also be caught up in the technological gap between what DVD image subs are capable of and digital text-based subs in a computer file are capable of.

Just my thoughts on the subject. :D :)
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jmaeshawn wrote:
ranger wrote: While I do think the dub can be rather annoying at points, the reason to buy these dvds by Funi is because they are probably the highest quality Americans will find of the first seasons of Detective Conan;
Import DVDs. That way you are supporting the actual animators and writers of the show rather than the people who bought a license to mess the show up. IMO this is what a "true fan" would do, and is an option for fans all over the world, rather than just people in the R1 area.

So, even though they are expensive, you should buy the Japanese DVDs to support the true creators, then watch the fansubs so you can understand the show. :)

I agree with that 100% I would rather give my money to the people who came out with the idea...not the ones who saw it fix to rip it apart with a bad dub...although not sure if I would buy the jap dvd if it did not have a eng subtitle option
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I just bought movies 1-4 off of Amazon, so i'm broke for an age... If I get that job at Waterstone's i'll be able to go shopping, but for now, starving student alert -_-
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I usually have bought the Case Closed Season sets and the first two films, and plan on getting the other two later this month hopefully. But I'm still keeping all of the episodes and films that have been fan-subbed. As for the Viridian Collection, there's no point in re-buying it if you bought the other season sets, but if those that didn't buy the season sets, then the Viridian Collection would be best for them.
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Ocelot wrote: that is really strange. i can play most detective conan videos on my ps3 just fine. some old files use very outdated video codecs, but that is okay. there is one thing that bothers me now though; the newest dctp releases use a different codec and i can't play them on my ps3 anymore. why?  ???
it's because what you said is off-topic and has no connection to whatever is being discussed here.  :P
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Seems like some kids need this message in their lives:

It seems like a lot of you aren't aware that the "Case Closed" disks ALL come with ORIGINAL JAPANESE AUDIO and english subtitles. That's right! Buying the Case Closed disks doesn't mean you have to watch the dub! You can own and watch the original "Detective Conan" Audio on your own TV with out spending thousands of dollars importing the disks or illegally downloading from your internet. You get 26 episodes per disc set, for only 20-30 dollars! That's much cheaper than importing the 4 episode 40 dollar discs from Japan! SO PLEASE! Buy the Case Closed discs! The more people that buy it, the more chance there is that they will start bringing the rest of the episodes over! and if you are a true Conan fan, you want to support and own the whole series!  

It perplexes my brain how many people out there are unaware that discs come with japanese audio and subtitles. >.>
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milaneechan wrote: Seems like some kids need this message in their lives:

It seems like a lot of you aren't aware that the "Case Closed" disks ALL come with ORIGINAL JAPANESE AUDIO and english subtitles. That's right! Buying the Case Closed disks doesn't mean you have to watch the dub! You can own and watch the original "Detective Conan" Audio on your own TV with out spending thousands of dollars importing the disks or illegally burning discs from your internet. You get 26 episodes per disc set, for only 20-30 dollars! That's much cheaper than importing the 4 episode 40 dallar discs from Japan! SO PLEASE! Buy the Case Closed discs! The more people that buy it, the more chance there is that they will start bringing the rest of the episodes over! and if you are a true Conan fan, you want to support and own the whole series!  

It perplexes my brain how many people out there are unaware that discs come with japanese audio and subtitles. >.>
wow....now this is pretty insulting towards....everyone maybe. You really do need to be stupid to not know that, especially since it was mentioned only oh so many times in this thread. You however, with all due respect to your red and big letters (seriously, tantei's use of caps is somehow fine, but there was no point in that) need to read what has been said so far instead of pressuming that no one knows what you just said.

What some have said, is that they think the subs made by funanimation aren't good and don't deserve to be bought. Why do some people want funanimation to continue the hideious parade I must ask.

Also, some members who talked here about getting the episodes from Japan ARE NOT FROM REGION 1. Meaning you've just been reading the last posts of this thread because we also talked about THAT. So next time you make such a post which hurts the mind and logic of almost everyone, read what was said until now in this thread.

edit: it's funny that everyone here has a different interpetation to what a "true conan fan" is. How about just stopping use this term then? If you think people should buy funanimation's stuff (I am quoting you on what you said since you weren't even slightly specific) then I ask you to buy the DVDs of Conan made in germany, philipins and oh where not. After all, a true Conan fan should support the whole series. Or you just referred to funanimation's stuff? So funanimation is what makes the series "whole"? I lived perfectly fine without it.
So by your interpetation, I'm not a true fan, since I won't buy funanimation's releases, but then again I can't even buy it to begin with.
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actually, I have run into several people who didn't know this. I posted this message at another board once, and 4 people right away informed me they didn't know and went and bought the discs.

Just saying. *shrug*

oh, and the red color and the big bold letters was to make it stand out, not to make people feel stupid. I just didn't want it to be skipped over. :)
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Ocelot wrote:
Kor wrote:
Ocelot wrote: that is really strange. i can play most detective conan videos on my ps3 just fine. some old files use very outdated video codecs, but that is okay. there is one thing that bothers me now though; the newest dctp releases use a different codec and i can't play them on my ps3 anymore. why?  ???
it's because what you said is off-topic and has no connection to whatever is being discussed here.  :P
it is on-topic because someone mentioned it here. your post is now off-topic and basically useless. now we have two useless posts.  :-*
but...but...maybe that guy's post was also off-topic then?  :o
Just because someone was off-topic, no need to continue the chain...like we are doing now  ;)
milaneechan wrote: oh, and the red color and the big bold letters was to make it stand out, not to make people feel stupid. I just didn't want it to be skipped over. :)
But...if I see red too much, the white background starts to look green  :D (bad and pointless red wall refrence)
I don't like when people try to make things stand out. It shows that they think that they might be ignored. People are reading this thread so no need to worry (from experience, standing out is not always good  :'()
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Kor wrote:
milaneechan wrote: Seems like some kids need this message in their lives:

It seems like a lot of you aren't aware that the "Case Closed" disks ALL come with ORIGINAL JAPANESE AUDIO and english subtitles. That's right! Buying the Case Closed disks doesn't mean you have to watch the dub! You can own and watch the original "Detective Conan" Audio on your own TV with out spending thousands of dollars importing the disks or illegally burning discs from your internet. You get 26 episodes per disc set, for only 20-30 dollars! That's much cheaper than importing the 4 episode 40 dallar discs from Japan! SO PLEASE! Buy the Case Closed discs! The more people that buy it, the more chance there is that they will start bringing the rest of the episodes over! and if you are a true Conan fan, you want to support and own the whole series!  

It perplexes my brain how many people out there are unaware that discs come with japanese audio and subtitles. >.>
wow....now this is pretty insulting towards....everyone maybe. You really do need to be stupid to not know that, especially since it was mentioned only oh so many times in this thread. You however, with all due respect to your red and big letters (seriously, tantei's use of caps is somehow fine, but there was no point in that) need to read what has been said so far instead of pressuming that no one knows what you just said.

What some have said, is that they think the subs made by funanimation aren't good and don't deserve to be bought. Why do some people want funanimation to continue the hideious parade I must ask.

Also, some members who talked here about getting the episodes from Japan ARE NOT FROM REGION 1. Meaning you've just been reading the last posts of this thread because we also talked about THAT. So next time you make such a post which hurts the mind and logic of almost everyone, read what was said until now in this thread.

edit: it's funny that everyone here has a different interpetation to what a "true conan fan" is. How about just stopping use this term then? If you think people should buy funanimation's stuff (I am quoting you on what you said since you weren't even slightly specific) then I ask you to buy the DVDs of Conan made in germany, philipins and oh where not. After all, a true Conan fan should support the whole series. Or you just referred to funanimation's stuff? So funanimation is what makes the series "whole"? I lived perfectly fine without it.
So by your interpetation, I'm not a true fan, since I won't buy funanimation's releases, but then again I can't even buy it to begin with.
THEN WHY ARE YOU ARGUING WITH US, JUST TO BE TROLLS, I SAID AT THE BEGINNING THIS IS TO R1 FANS, NOT TO R3 OR R2 FANS OF THE SHOW, IF YOU DO NOT LIVE IN R1 TERRITORY, THEN WHY THE BEEP DO YOU CARE ABOUT CASE CLOSED DVDs, and go off stereotypes of them, I mean I know you would not like it if I used Israeli stereotypes against you
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