I think Ai X Mitsuhiko is cute

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kkslider5552000 wrote:
kkslider5552000 wrote: it'll never happen and would most likely be horrible if it did
hey guys let's all focus on this part of the post only so we can have internet debates!  :-\
it'll never happen , well we dont know exactly , it will be horrible if it did , i cant agree more, even conan agrees with me "Mitshikou dont choose her".

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@Schillok : you're wrong im not aiming for "that" , they are many other DC guys who know about her BO past , and they have the perfect age for haibara .
@Rellik: he is too young for her , by the time he just finished his teenage years she'll be an adult who is 30 year old .
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Schillok wrote: Of course he is still very young... but according to Gosho this is no big problem given enough time. Ran and Shinichi would be the prime example, together with all the other "relationships" of people knowing each other since a very young age and growing up to become "lovers".
Critical point: Miyano Shiho is nowhere near "very young"
And I wouldn't say he knows nothing about her either. Aside from the Professor and Conan there are no other people closer to her than the DB. They might not know her past but I think they know her personality quite well.
They know her assumed personality quite well.  They know nothing about what she's really like.  They don't know, for example, about the two times she took glee in scaring the living daylights out of Conan by convincing him that she was with the organization.  They only know about her what she wants them to know about her.  (Same, incidentally, goes for Conan and the Professor.)  She, on the other hand, seems to have a fondness for them, since she sees them as they actually are.
And I think not knowing about the BO is an advantage. I get the impression that Ai feels responsible to what happened to Conan because of her poison. Feeling guilty whenever you see someone is horrible and not beneficial for a relationship ("If my poison didn't shrink him he could be with Ran, the girl that he loves now. Instead he has to be with me."). Mitsuhiko - or anyone else - not having a connection to the BO would rather help her to get over her past and help her to slowly forget about the painful memories from her former live.
It's past naïve to say that she feels horrible, guilty, and responsible.  It was an accident.  She was trying to develop something else.  That something else accidentally turned out to be a poison, which had a little-known accidental side effect of instantly reverse-aging the body.  If anything, she's amused by the whole thing.

The organization, and the research she did with the organization, is a big part of her identity.  She doesn't want to throw any of that away, or forget it.  The organization holds keys to her past, and more importantly, to her parents.



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you're wrong im not aiming for "that" , they are many other DC guys who know about her BO past , and they have the perfect age for haibara .
Uhh... excluding (active and former) BO members the only other guys who know her past would be Heiji (who knows almost nothing about her except she is "That girl who played Conan during the Desperate Revival Arc"), Yusako Kudo (err...), Professor Agasa (...), maybe Kaito Kid (Did they ever meet?) and... well.... these are all.
And if we exclude Gin and all the other active BO members the only person that MIGHT be reasonable is Akai. I guess Akai has some idea of her true identity and knows her a bit through what Akemi told him. But since he feels responsible for her sisters death - and since he had never direct contact with Sherry and avoided her since she became Ai - this pairing is highly hypothetical.

So setting the condition that her future love has to know about her past and the BO is way too restrictive. And as I said, I have the impression that Ai prefers to forget about the BO and her involement in it.
Critical point: Miyano Shiho is nowhere near "very young"
True. But Ai Haibara is nowhere near "adult" as well.  She will always have the conflict between her psychical and physical age. There are 3 ways to stop this conflict:
1) take a permanent antidote - thus becomeing Miyano Shino again
2) accept her new live as the truth - thus becoming Ai Haibara forever
3) continue the conflict for many decades - when the difference between her physical and psychical age doesn't matter

Of course an Ai x Mitsuhiko pairing will only work with the 2nd choise.

They know her assumed personality quite well.  They know nothing about what she's really like.  They don't know, for example, about the two times she took glee in scaring the living daylights out of Conan by convincing him that she was with the organization.  They only know about her what she wants them to know about her.
I disagree. Of course she doesn't tell them everything. If it is because she doesn't want to get them involved with the BO, wants to get over her past with the BO or doesn't want them to pity her doesn't matter.
But just like Conan - who (at least in the past) was much more his true self in front of the kids then in front of Ran where he had to be careful all of the time - Haibara shows the kids her true character from time to time. They know about her hidden gentleness (especially towards animals) and they have seen her make sarcastic remarks about Conan or adults. They know she hiddes her true feelings sometimes which is why they drag her along often (And even though they are often wrong what Haibara really likes they sometimes find something to make her happy/cheer her up.)

And I can't imagine that Ai would want a boyfriend - or anyone - who could read all of her feelings and hidden thoughts. Except for her sister (which she didn't see often) of course. Quite the opposite, I think she would prefer something who knows when to stop snooping around in her buisness (or when she tells him to stop). Mitsuko does that.
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Wow!  I'm amazed at how much opposition there is to this pairing!!  Especially since it's been hinted at for quite a while in the series. 
Schillok wrote: Mitsuhiko - or anyone else - not having a connection to the BO would rather help her to get over her past and help her to slowly forget about the painful memories from her former live.
That's a great point!  It would really let her move on from her former life as Sherry/Shiho and start fresh as Ai Haibara.

A few cute pics of this cute pairing:
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Obscure wrote: @Rellik: he is too young for her , by the time he just finished his teenage years she'll be an adult who is 30 year old .
why are you saying it like Ai will definitely turn back into an adult? (though i want that to happen otherwise ShihoxGin wouldn't be possible but that's not the point right now)

she can always be a teenager with the intellect of a 30 year old
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man, that doesn't look cute at all to me xD - maybe is the way they're drawn :P
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Obscure wrote:
he is too young for her , by the time he just finished his teenage years she'll be an adult who is 30 year old .
And your point is....?

Believe it or not (actually believe it cause it's true...) One of my mother's friends got married to a woman who is older than him in more than 15 years. While it looks to me wrong, it doesn't mean that it is wrong for them.

Also, I said it in another post, but age isn't just a mystical thing but also a scientifical thing. So while it's true that Haibara is currently 18 years old, scientifically her body is much younger. If you didn't know Haibara was actually an adult, would you say that she is too old for Kitsuhilko?
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Rellik wrote:
Obscure wrote: @Rellik: he is too young for her , by the time he just finished his teenage years she'll be an adult who is 30 year old .
why are you saying it like Ai will definitely turn back into an adult? (though i want that to happen otherwise ShihoxGin wouldn't be possible but that's not the point right now)

she can always be a teenager with the intellect of a 30 year old
- im not saying it in that way , but  age is the number of years u lived and by that time haibara would have lived 30 years, so wether she is in a teenage body she is still 30 years old.

- and i still dont get why would a 30 year old have a crush on a guy for the past 10 years she acted like a babysitter for him and his friends.
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Obscure wrote:
he is too young for her , by the time he just finished his teenage years she'll be an adult who is 30 year old .
And your point is....?

Believe it or not (actually believe it cause it's true...) One of my mother's friends got married to a woman who is older than him in more than 15 years. While it looks to me wrong, it doesn't mean that it is wrong for them.

Also, I said it in another post, but age isn't just a mystical thing but also a scientifical thing. So while it's true that Haibara is currently 18 years old, scientifically her body is much younger. If you didn't know Haibara was actually an adult, would you say that she is too old for Kitsuhilko?
ofcourse not , or mabey ya , i cant really answer a question when i havent seen the situation .
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Go on guys, continue, don't mind about me..

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baka1412 wrote: Go on guys, continue, don't mind about me..

I'm still waiting for my brethren from Ai + Conan thread  to wreck this thread Image
- NOOOOOOOOOOO ! dont say this , dont predict the future that i dont want to face. 35738252 other threads transformed to COxAI . please not this one too T_T !
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*sees the person who made the thread*

-head explodes-

You never cease to surprise me :D.

I agree, I think Mitsuhiko's crush on Ai is quite cute.  Sure Mitsuhiko's a bit of a dork but when Shinichi was his age he' all like EWWW GURLS AND BOYS CAN'T BE FRIENDS so I think Mitsuhiko's attitude to girls makes him a pretty cool little guy.

And what's this?  Are people storming this thread soon?  I guess you guys are saying I should post some Mitsuhiko x Haibara pictures to welcome you guys yes?

*goes upload*
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baka1412 wrote: Go on guys, continue, don't mind about me..

I'm still waiting for my brethren from Ai + Conan thread  to wreck this thread Image
I never said that I like this couple. I just like to argue with people over things 8)

But on topic, yes. Their moments are cute.
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kirite wrote: *sees the person who made the thread*

-head explodes-

You never cease to surprise me :D.

I agree, I think Mitsuhiko's crush on Ai is quite cute.  Sure Mitsuhiko's a bit of a dork but when Shinichi was his age he' all like EWWW GURLS AND BOYS CAN'T BE FRIENDS so I think Mitsuhiko's attitude to girls makes him a pretty cool little guy.

And what's this?  Are people storming this thread soon?  I guess you guys are saying I should post some Mitsuhiko x Haibara pictures to welcome you guys yes?

*goes upload*
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Age is in part tied to the body. While Ai isn't like an eight-year old for being trapped in the body of one, if she were to normally age back to 18, she wouldn't be like a normal 30 year-old; she'd have a youthful body rather than one just starting to turn old, fact which will in turn affect the way she thinks about herself. She won't quite be a normal 18 year-old for having been alive nearly 30 years, but she'll be more like a normal 18 year-old than a normal 30 year-old.

In this way, she and Mitsuhiko will eventually be same age, physically and mentally.

Plus, this way they could be childhood friends who turn into lovers, which this series is addicted to.

Can't say I particularly care one way or the other for it, but since Ai will never end up with Conan, I guess it's ok.

Did the "10 years pass" OVA (#9?) address this at all? I haven't seen it.
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Fronzel wrote: Age is in part tied to the body. While Ai isn't like an eight-year old for being trapped in the body of one, if she were to normally age back to 18, she wouldn't be like a normal 30 year-old; she'd have a youthful body rather than one just starting to turn old, fact which will in turn affect the way she thinks about herself. She won't quite be a normal 18 year-old for having been alive nearly 30 years, but she'll be more like a normal 18 year-old than a normal 30 year-old.
That's exactly what I wanted to say but couldn't find the correct words.
thanks for saying it.
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kirite wrote: And what's this?  Are people storming this thread soon?  I guess you guys are saying I should post some Mitsuhiko x Haibara pictures to welcome you guys yes?

*goes upload*
does your upload take 2 hours or something?  :D
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Fronzel wrote: Age is in part tied to the body. While Ai isn't like an eight-year old for being trapped in the body of one, if she were to normally age back to 18, she wouldn't be like a normal 30 year-old; she'd have a youthful body rather than one just starting to turn old, fact which will in turn affect the way she thinks about herself. She won't quite be a normal 18 year-old for having been alive nearly 30 years, but she'll be more like a normal 18 year-old than a normal 30 year-old.
That's exactly what I wanted to say but couldn't find the correct words.
thanks for saying it.
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