Who do you like better?

kirite · Post by **kirite** » March 25th, 2009, 1:19 pm

Well Shinichi is a genius rich bastard who never had to work hard a day of his life to get money/good grades/girls and who's inflated ego rivals the size of the continents. But then Conan is also a genius rich bastard who never had to work a day of his life to get money/grades/girls...thought because he screwed up once his ego is now slightly less then the size of continents.

With that said I like Conan more ^^! YEAH CONAN!

Awww if Shinichi was too likable in the beginning then I would feel too sorry for him when he turned in to Conan

. Since I wasn't too fond of him I just point and laughed.

Rellik · Post by **Rellik** » March 25th, 2009, 2:48 pm

but u got to admit, u must hav felt really glad that Conan turned back to Shinichi and had like one day of 'normal' life (im talking about the time when Shinichi disguised as the knight in the play)

Xela · Post by **Xela** » March 25th, 2009, 5:02 pm

Well, I like Shinichi.
Although he may is changing while playing the role of "Conan Edogawa", itÂ´s not like there different persons.

I think we share a lot of similarities and therefor I can really relate to him and his actions.
Yes, heÂ´s not "perfect" and yes, he makes mistakes. So what?
I donÂ´t think I would like him as much if he was completely flawless.
IMO, even when he makes a choice that is considered as wrong or stupid, itÂ´s always an understandable one- and not something he does out of selfish intentions.
When I look at Shinichi, I see a character with great character depth and well development. ItÂ´s much more appealing to me than some nice and boring character without any changes in itÂ´s personality.
Shinichi learns from his mistakes, at least- if not the first time, then the second or the third.
For me, thatÂ´s what a good character is about and I donÂ´t see why it would make him less likeable.
(And itÂ´s not like he is the only arrogant person in this manga- Aoyama seems to have thing for this kind of people.)

(I apologize for my english... $:-\$ )

kkslider5552000 · Post by **kkslider5552000** » March 25th, 2009, 5:28 pm

Xela wrote: (I apologize for my english... $:-\$ )

I've seen much worse (and in this topic too).

also, for those that don't get it, Kyuu-tan basically proved how awesome character development is. (Haibara is another great example of this...but I am much lazier than Kyuu)

kirite · Post by **kirite** » March 25th, 2009, 8:49 pm

Xela wrote:
Yes, heÂ´s not "perfect" and yes, he makes mistakes. So what?
I donÂ´t think I would like him as much if he was completely flawless.

Funny you should mention that because one of the reasons why I didn't like Shinichi is that he's too close to perfect xD

Of course some of these are given because he's a detective...but still he's just sooooo "main character of this story".

Let's see....rich, a genius, can find more clues and connections then an entire team of police combined, faster then Heiji when deducting, knows the criminal mind better then Hakuba, can kick criminal ass, can avoid Ran's ass kicking with super good reflexes, is very good looking, can sense people's killing aura just because he can, has Agasa making cool gadgets for him, circimstances allow him to get all the girls

, knows most subjects better then experts in that field, according to the movie he's also very good at music (violin and perfect pitch), very brave, is a very good person, from the Shiragami-case it appears he can leap from tree to tree, cares deeply for peole around him, etc etc...

Since he is like this for most of his life, it makes does make sense the fact that he's egoistic xD.

I like him whenever he acts like a human being...so whenever he can't sing, jokes around with friends, depend on others and stop doing stupidly dangerous things by himself, whenever he screws up and actually LEARNS SOMETHING and oh of course whenever he acts pervy xD.

kat1214young · Post by **kat1214young** » March 26th, 2009, 2:40 am

hahaha nys1 kirite!

like i said before, Shinichi is so full of himself before he turned to Conan
and if you compare both dudes, it's like you'll see two different individuals
that's what i like about them, they are one yet, at the same time, become two different people

but there's no doubt that Conan is cuter XD
well, for me that is... ^^
hey don't blame me for this, Shinichi acting like a child in Conan's name is really cute

so basically, in the end they really are just one

and cute ^^

haibarakudo · Post by **haibarakudo** » March 27th, 2009, 6:47 am

Conan

Xela · Post by **Xela** » March 27th, 2009, 11:10 am

kirite wrote: I like him whenever he acts like a human being...

Well, I like him all the time

- because I talked about his personality and not his skills.
ItÂ´s true that he is too good at too many different things- but his characters has itÂ´s good sides and his bad sides (as you already mentioned). That makes him a lot more realistic and believeable than a character who never does something wrong.

ItÂ´s just...
I noticed that a lot of people like to complain about the amount of abilities Shinichi might have, while immidaitely getting annoyed by him whenever he does something wrong.
Contradiction much?
If you have a problem with the Gary Stue-ness of a character, why is it so bad when it shows some imperfections?

kat1214young · Post by **kat1214young** » March 29th, 2009, 6:51 am

Yay!!
Conan's catching up ^^

LDCF · Post by **LDCF** » March 29th, 2009, 12:10 pm

I like them both, but, I voted for Shinichi! xD

because Conan's handsomeness can be seen on Shinichi! XDD

kat1214young · Post by **kat1214young** » March 30th, 2009, 3:05 am

LDCF wrote: because Conan's handsomeness can be seen on Shinichi! XDD

but Conan's cuteness can't be seen on Shinichi because that cuteness is something that can be seen in a child's face XD

besides Conan is really cute doing his "a-le-le" thing and all his child acts

imagine Shinichi going "a-le-le" .......*imagining* oh man it's weird!

keep voting guys!

Spoiler:

lol

ccppfan · Post by **ccppfan** » March 30th, 2009, 7:53 am

kirite wrote:
Xela wrote:
Yes, heÂ´s not "perfect" and yes, he makes mistakes. So what?
I donÂ´t think I would like him as much if he was completely flawless.
Funny you should mention that because one of the reasons why I didn't like Shinichi is that he's too close to perfect xD

Of course some of these are given because he's a detective...but still he's just sooooo "main character of this story".

Let's see....rich, a genius, can find more clues and connections then an entire team of police combined, faster then Heiji when deducting, knows the criminal mind better then Hakuba, can kick criminal ass, can avoid Ran's ass kicking with super good reflexes, is very good looking, can sense people's killing aura just because he can, has Agasa making cool gadgets for him, circimstances allow him to get all the girls , knows most subjects better then experts in that field, according to the movie he's also very good at music (violin and perfect pitch), very brave, is a very good person, from the Shiragami-case it appears he can leap from tree to tree, cares deeply for peole around him, etc etc...

Since he is like this for most of his life, it makes does make sense the fact that he's egoistic xD.

I like him whenever he acts like a human being...so whenever he can't sing, jokes around with friends, depend on others and stop doing stupidly dangerous things by himself, whenever he screws up and actually LEARNS SOMETHING and oh of course whenever he acts pervy xD.

WOW. O.o

You left out something: Can drive practically every vehicle in the world (does he take rocket lessons, I wonder), can shoot a gun, etc etc etc.

That is too much for a 17 year old. TOO MUCH.

kat1214young · Post by **kat1214young** » April 2nd, 2009, 10:08 am

ccppfan wrote:
kirite wrote:
Xela wrote:
Yes, heÂ´s not "perfect" and yes, he makes mistakes. So what?
I donÂ´t think I would like him as much if he was completely flawless.
Funny you should mention that because one of the reasons why I didn't like Shinichi is that he's too close to perfect xD

Of course some of these are given because he's a detective...but still he's just sooooo "main character of this story".

Let's see....rich, a genius, can find more clues and connections then an entire team of police combined, faster then Heiji when deducting, knows the criminal mind better then Hakuba, can kick criminal ass, can avoid Ran's ass kicking with super good reflexes, is very good looking, can sense people's killing aura just because he can, has Agasa making cool gadgets for him, circimstances allow him to get all the girls , knows most subjects better then experts in that field, according to the movie he's also very good at music (violin and perfect pitch), very brave, is a very good person, from the Shiragami-case it appears he can leap from tree to tree, cares deeply for peole around him, etc etc...

Since he is like this for most of his life, it makes does make sense the fact that he's egoistic xD.

I like him whenever he acts like a human being...so whenever he can't sing, jokes around with friends, depend on others and stop doing stupidly dangerous things by himself, whenever he screws up and actually LEARNS SOMETHING and oh of course whenever he acts pervy xD.
WOW. O.o

You left out something: Can drive practically every vehicle in the world (does he take rocket lessons, I wonder), can shoot a gun, etc etc etc.

That is too much for a 17 year old. TOO MUCH.

maybe not, if he was taught by his father at an early age XD

Spoiler:

Hydok · Post by **Hydok** » April 2nd, 2009, 1:21 pm

kat1214young wrote: but Conan's cuteness can't be seen on Shinichi because that cuteness is something that can be seen in a child's face XD

besides Conan is really cute doing his "a-le-le" thing and all his child acts

imagine Shinichi going "a-le-le" .......*imagining* oh man it's weird!

o.0
Oh my goodness. That's rather frightening...

kat1214young · Post by **kat1214young** » April 2nd, 2009, 1:41 pm

yes
frightening and freaky XD

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