What story do you think is the most sad of all?

[David mason]

Most of the stories are sad, don't know which one to choose. If only Conan noticed that aspect too, he only cares about catching the culprit and that's it. I sometimes don't understand how can Ran love such a dry and pitiless individual. I am still a ShinRan fan because with her he is different, shows more emotions and since Ran sees good in him, I trust there must be a reason. But still, Conan's immunity to perceive human tragedies is disturbing, imho. The real tragedies aren't the deaths he is investigating, but the past events that pushed those people to commit murder, at least in most stories.

I think what gosho is trying to do is to tell us that no matter what the situation you're in it's never good to kill somebody. That's what I think at least now if you don't agree with this point of view I'm not gonna critizice your opinion otherwise it's gonna be another philosophical debate.

[David mason]

as for the most sad story... I'm gonna go with the moonlight sonata but it's very difficult choice since most of them are really sad. The case Episode 84-85 was sad I remember when ran after solving the case hugged conan while crying... I cried a lot. Also at the end of the clash of red and black saga when jodie was crying in the car after takagi revealed to her that it was akai body in the car... that was very sad

[Mario2000]

I think what gosho is trying to do is to tell us that no matter what the situation you're in it's never good to kill somebody. That's what I think at least now if don't agree with this point of view I'm not gonna critizice your opinion otherwise it's gonna be another philosophical debate.

I am not saying I disagree, it's just that the crimes of the "victims" don't seem to get any posthumous condemnation from Conan just because they are dead and I really feel sad for the tragic situations of most murderers in DC. My point of view isn't so much about criticizing Conan as to feel depressed of how sad did the life of those indivituals turn out. I mean, they are left with only 2 choices at the end:

1) Become a killer
2) Swallow all the crap life has given them until their last breath when they die of old age.

If the episodes were longer and more detailed, I probably would even cry for the characters, many animes make me shed tears if they are sad.

[char13happy]

Moonlight Sonata and The Two Sisters were the first ones to actually tug at my heartstrings back then. But if it were the more recent cases, I'd say the Deduction Showdown, simply because Conan's character development waaaay back in Moonlight Sonata was showcased once more. And that I can also sympathize with the killer there.

[megamind1988]

they are 5 for me: episodes 1, 444, 630, 729, 767. poor girls.

[Uchiha Shadow]

122 was absolutely fantastic and the soundtrack just pulls you in also. Just go watch it and see...

The manga version of the death island, I remember reading it about 9 years ago in one volume, it's definitely very basic setting but the stuff about why the woman was killed peacefully while the male victim's face was bashed in completely is really memorable for some reason.

What chapter is the death island case?

[Wakarimashita]

122 was absolutely fantastic and the soundtrack just pulls you in also. Just go watch it and see...

The manga version of the death island, I remember reading it about 9 years ago in one volume, it's definitely very basic setting but the stuff about why the woman was killed peacefully while the male victim's face was bashed in completely is really memorable for some reason.

What chapter is the death island case?

http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki ... 27s_Palace

Volume 35: File 11 (361) ~ Volume 36: File 4 (365)

[Uchiha Shadow]

122 was absolutely fantastic and the soundtrack just pulls you in also. Just go watch it and see...

The manga version of the death island, I remember reading it about 9 years ago in one volume, it's definitely very basic setting but the stuff about why the woman was killed peacefully while the male victim's face was bashed in completely is really memorable for some reason.

What chapter is the death island case?

http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki ... 27s_Palace

Volume 35: File 11 (361) ~ Volume 36: File 4 (365)

Thanks.

[megamind1988]

i cried for chiharu shirakawa, miki kitagawa, hitomi, juri himuro and shoko hisazu.
maybe they'll get a sympathetic punishment and well-deserved for remorseful.
because i like them, in my opinion i don't think they'll murder again.

[ryankun0903]

Most of the stories are sad, don't know which one to choose. If only Conan noticed that aspect too, he only cares about catching the culprit and that's it. I sometimes don't understand how can Ran love such a dry and pitiless individual. I am still a ShinRan fan because with her he is different, shows more emotions and since Ran sees good in him, I trust there must be a reason. But still, Conan's immunity to perceive human tragedies is disturbing, imho. The real tragedies aren't the deaths he is investigating, but the past events that pushed those people to commit murder, at least in most stories.

I think what gosho is trying to do is to tell us that no matter what the situation you're in it's never good to kill somebody. That's what I think at least now if you don't agree with this point of view I'm not gonna critizice your opinion otherwise it's gonna be another philosophical debate.

this debate reminds me of Poirot's Murder on the Orient Express case. Poirot's dilemma at the end really humanized the character. I hope we see this kind of dilemma to Conan/Shinichi too.

For the saddest case. For me, it will be the Locked Bathroom Murder Case (2 sisters) and the Karaoke Murder Case. The ending monologue of Conan made those cases very sad. There is also this case, although not a sad one but more of a heartwarming one. The Mitsuhiko's Mystifying Forest case. The reason why the serial killer went back to that place made it heartwarming.

[k11chi]

Most of the stories are sad, don't know which one to choose. If only Conan noticed that aspect too, he only cares about catching the culprit and that's it. I sometimes don't understand how can Ran love such a dry and pitiless individual. I am still a ShinRan fan because with her he is different, shows more emotions and since Ran sees good in him, I trust there must be a reason. But still, Conan's immunity to perceive human tragedies is disturbing, imho. The real tragedies aren't the deaths he is investigating, but the past events that pushed those people to commit murder, at least in most stories.

I think what gosho is trying to do is to tell us that no matter what the situation you're in it's never good to kill somebody. That's what I think at least now if you don't agree with this point of view I'm not gonna critizice your opinion otherwise it's gonna be another philosophical debate.

this debate reminds me of Poirot's Murder on the Orient Express case. Poirot's dilemma at the end really humanized the character. I hope we see this kind of dilemma to Conan/Shinichi too.

For the saddest case. For me, it will be the Locked Bathroom Murder Case (2 sisters) and the Karaoke Murder Case. The ending monologue of Conan made those cases very sad. There is also this case, although not a sad one but more of a heartwarming one. The Mitsuhiko's Mystifying Forest case. The reason why the serial killer went back to that place made it heartwarming.

Poirot is the kind of dude who doesn't accept murder but he's not as into it as Conan when it comes to protecting people. Read Death on the Nile,

Spoiler:

Poirot literally wanted the culprit to die and did nothing to prevent it from happening despite knowing how he'd do it and saying that he doesn't accept murder and thinks it will turn people into something else entirely.

[megamind1988]

they're not heartless and ruthless like gin.
that's why i love them.

[Mario2000]

Poirot is the kind of dude who doesn't accept murder but he's not as into it as Conan when it comes to protecting people. Read Death on the Nile,

Spoiler:

Poirot literally wanted the culprit to die and did nothing to prevent it from happening despite knowing how he'd do it and saying that he doesn't accept murder and thinks it will turn people into something else entirely.

Spoiler:

Yet, in the "ABC murders" Poirot used a pickpocket to unload the murderer's gun to prevent him from killing himself. I wonder why did he decide it that way in this book, but the complete opposite in "Death on the Nile"? Maybe he thought the ABC murderer was more evil and deserved a slower and more suffering end (the trial, the gallows etc)?

[megamind1988]

probably the female sympathetic murderers will go to the ujiie prison to reform them, and i hope so, because i'm worried about them, besides death penalti and life imprisonment would be too harsh for them, in my opinión they deserve a punishment of between 3 to 10 years of prison, like it happened with natsumi tsuji in 2004.

[ryankun0903]

Most of the stories are sad, don't know which one to choose. If only Conan noticed that aspect too, he only cares about catching the culprit and that's it. I sometimes don't understand how can Ran love such a dry and pitiless individual. I am still a ShinRan fan because with her he is different, shows more emotions and since Ran sees good in him, I trust there must be a reason. But still, Conan's immunity to perceive human tragedies is disturbing, imho. The real tragedies aren't the deaths he is investigating, but the past events that pushed those people to commit murder, at least in most stories.

I think what gosho is trying to do is to tell us that no matter what the situation you're in it's never good to kill somebody. That's what I think at least now if you don't agree with this point of view I'm not gonna critizice your opinion otherwise it's gonna be another philosophical debate.

this debate reminds me of Poirot's Murder on the Orient Express case. Poirot's dilemma at the end really humanized the character. I hope we see this kind of dilemma to Conan/Shinichi too.

For the saddest case. For me, it will be the Locked Bathroom Murder Case (2 sisters) and the Karaoke Murder Case. The ending monologue of Conan made those cases very sad. There is also this case, although not a sad one but more of a heartwarming one. The Mitsuhiko's Mystifying Forest case. The reason why the serial killer went back to that place made it heartwarming.

Poirot is the kind of dude who doesn't accept murder but he's not as into it as Conan when it comes to protecting people. Read Death on the Nile,

Spoiler:

Poirot literally wanted the culprit to die and did nothing to prevent it from happening despite knowing how he'd do it and saying that he doesn't accept murder and thinks it will turn people into something else entirely.

I haven't read Death on the Nile but I already have the book so pro'ly reading that this week. That might just tell us that Poirot is a more grounded character than Shinichi. I think that even if somebody will kill his friends or family, he will still be this righteous and just detective.