Wait until it's released. You'll think differently......Initially, you'll release the first, see feedback, and make adjustments for sequels if there are demands for more.Kor wrote:actually.....if you look in one of the threads in the off topic discussion, you'll find out that I am writing a novel. Still, if authers made a plot according to their fans' demands, the book would be bad. Fans may come up with good ideas but if my novel gets released, I'd prefer to get hate mail than do what the fans want me to. If it's about a character then I wouldn't worry about that, because I don't have the heart to kill any of my characters (except the ones that I have to kill). I'm writing the book with my ideas, not the fans' ideas.soratothamax wrote:So you would think. Initially, writers write to pass their ideas. But they LOVE fan input. You remember I told you I was a writer, right?Kor wrote: Authers owe nothing to the fans - Fans owe everything to the auther.
The auther writes in order to give and pass his ideas and story and not what the fans want. If the fans think that Gosho is writing the manga in order to satisfy a certain group of fans, they are wrong. So what if fans will be angry? Did it matter when there were 8 episodes of Endless Eight? Did it matter to the warner bros when they delayed the release of the sixth movie of Harry Potter? Should it matter to Gosho after he will end DC? NO!
Initially they put out their thoughts and ideas. But when fans get excited over a character (it's not necessarily weird to overly like a character), the writer tends to, subconsciously or directly, bring more from the character to the story. It's a known fact. Try writing a novel. I did, and I read it to my friends, and some of them really like one of my characters, which made me happy and made me want to write more about that character, though that character wasn't a main character. Writers want to bring in their own ideas, but they love to please fans too. Why do you think they keep Kaitou Kid in the series when he's not part of the universe? Fans. Fans inspired that from FEEDBACK. They want to keep reader interest, whether they think they do or not. It's a writers' thing...If a lot of people don't give much feedback to a couple, I guarantee you that couple will be shown less and less throughout the series......whether the writer wants it or not. They will continuously write whats interesting. It's kind of like a concert or show. After the concert sometimes, people scream for more or scream and beg for the person to play one song they really want to hear, and at that point they are so into the moment and the love and support of that song, they begin to play it, just to please the crowd. If people don't show much support for the song or boo it, they won't play it as much anymore, especially if it got low itunes sells.....It makes the writer proud to know that people are interested in his ideas, and if he sees people interested, he'll continue to produce it more frequently. If it is something generally most people are against, Goshyo will be disappointed, and that doesn't mean he'll get rid of the character, but specific aspects of the particular character might begin to disappear or the character might not be shown as frequently.
FOR INSTANCE: Not many people were in favor of Eusike. Eusike hasn't appeared since Clash of Red and Black....and might never come back to the series. Not many people were in favor of the AyumixConan couple, so the series is showing less and less of that slowly but surly. It's how it is. The less interesting a character is or becomes, the more they start to vanish or certain qualities disappear that were once there .....also my suspicions of Ran soon. Her "personality" will be shown less and less until the end as the BO becomes the main focus...
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I just love taking psychology and writing classes in college! I'm such a know-it-all of human behavior now!
As far as we are aware, Rowling kept the last chapter in her vault since the early nineties (though it's not very believable. and I didn't read the books but that's what she said) so according to that, she intended to go in her way all along. There were no fans when she wrote that chapter. She wanted to go with her story and that's what she did.
At this point in detective conan, if you have read or watched until now, even if Gosho kills Haibara, you wouldn't stop to watch it, because you also want to know the ending.
you think that now, but that is words from the writer who is confident in his/her abilities. Writing doesn't work like that all the time. Of course, you want to keep characters and put your thoughts and ideas and keep it there. But in your subconscious mind, you will feel the energy from fans. Fans can be very powerful driving forces to how much of a role you give characters in LATER series.
You may not get rid of characters, but slowly in later series, you will find yourself drifting towards characters/plots/ideas that fans liked most in previous works.
Example: People loved the original Harry Potter so much they demanded a sequel. As the author, Will you give the fans what they want or move on? This also depends on your career choice. You may or may not be a writer for a career...don't know. Regardless, if fans love the novel enough, they are going to demand for more. It is no different from if they really like a character. If they really like a character enough, they will demand more from you, and they will demand to see more from that character. It is no different from if people love a couple a lot. The writer will probably be shocked, but will definitely feed into the fans' demands, even if the ending outcome isn't in favor of the group. If more and more people like it, Goshyo will try to make people come back for more and will try to keep the reader satisfied to a certain degree.
If people really don't like a character, you might not get rid of them, but you will subconsciously write less and less about that character, and they might not play as big of a role in the next series. This is especially prominent in characters that are not very important. They start to disappear from the series as the series progresses because they can't contribute much.....
With anything that requires consumer sales, input, especially from fans, is valuable to your success. Don't ever forget that.
But it has to be a lot of fans who agree, not just a small few to influence a writers' subconscious mind....however, the number of fans can change overnight and take you by surprise.....
You should have a religion! Seriously! 
