Ai + Conan

[TypeSera]

Maybe the cure for the 'AHO-toxin' will be her parting gift if that happened.

[1Kaito]

He will be depressed if Ai dies in the battle, especially because he promised to protect her

sou da ne..hehe!! (I'm good person now.. peace!!)

Why do you say that when you have no intention for peace at all.

[predator64]

He will be depressed if Ai dies in the battle, especially because he promised to protect her

Maybe feel depress and guilty for a while...
And maybe feel sad when he thinks about it again when he returns to normal life...
Because he can't protect the one who needs a happy life the most,and the person who turns his life back to normal.

Well, like I said before, if Ai die in the end, then Conan will be a losers even if BO defeated. As a bodyguard, he can save other people but his mistress.

I think it is only half correct...His main goal as stated in very beginning is to defeat Black Organization...
If he does destroy the organization but Ai dies I think it can be considered as 50% ~ 75% success...

He will be depressed if Ai dies in the battle, especially because he promised to protect her

sou da ne..hehe!! (I'm good person now.. peace!!)
and if ai dies..who will create antidote for aptx-4869?? hehe!!

You sound like there the reason why Conan protects her is just because she is the only one who can create the counter agent for the APTX 4869...
If they found the data of its main component,I bet there Agasa can even finish the job.

I recalled that in the very beginning of the manga,Agasa stated he can help him if Conan finds the data of it.

[psyko_stevey_999]

I think we're overlooking a very real possibility. Just because Ai dies doesn't mean she has to be killed outside of her own volition

Am I the only one here that sees her sacrificing herself to protect Conan, over even Ran or Agasa. It would be a great ending to her character transformation. Starts out as a girl who was used and abused and thereby found it difficult to trust anyone. Then she slowly begins to see that there are good people in the world and then in a moment of clarity she decides that she would willingly die if it meant protecting someone close to her

Plus it would be a great scene because she would be able to fully understand her sister's sacrifice for her and it would give her another way to relate to her

I'm just saying, i would rather picture Ai as hero rather than a victim

[AICHAN]

Plus it would be a great scene because she would be able to fully understand her sister's sacrifice for her and it would give her another way to relate to her

I think she already fully understand her sister's sacrifice...Shiho would have done the same for her Akemi...

But I like your idea of sacrifice(for Conan or somebody else)...If Ai has to die,it's better for her to act as an hero,and not as a victim

Of course,I don't want her to die...she really deserves to live a happy life after all...that would be unfair for her to die like that...

[predator64]

I think we're overlooking a very real possibility. Just because Ai dies doesn't mean she has to be killed outside of her own volition

Am I the only one here that sees her sacrificing herself to protect Conan, over even Ran or Agasa. It would be a great ending to her character transformation. Starts out as a girl who was used and abused and thereby found it difficult to trust anyone. Then she slowly begins to see that there are good people in the world and then in a moment of clarity she decides that she would willingly die if it meant protecting someone close to her

Plus it would be a great scene because she would be able to fully understand her sister's sacrifice for her and it would give her another way to relate to her

I'm just saying, i would rather picture Ai as hero rather than a victim

Actually,I believe almost everyone of this topic know that if Gosho wants to kill her,her best death would be sacrifice her life for someone.

[1Kaito]

I think we're overlooking a very real possibility. Just because Ai dies doesn't mean she has to be killed outside of her own volition

Am I the only one here that sees her sacrificing herself to protect Conan, over even Ran or Agasa. It would be a great ending to her character transformation. Starts out as a girl who was used and abused and thereby found it difficult to trust anyone. Then she slowly begins to see that there are good people in the world and then in a moment of clarity she decides that she would willingly die if it meant protecting someone close to her

Plus it would be a great scene because she would be able to fully understand her sister's sacrifice for her and it would give her another way to relate to her

I'm just saying, i would rather picture Ai as hero rather than a victim

Excuse me if I think this post isn't 100% filled with good intentions coming from a ShinRan.

Actually,I believe almost everyone of this topic know that if Gosho wants to kill her,her best death would be sacrifice her life for someone.

That's not a happy ending at all so I doubt she will die.

[psyko_stevey_999]

That almost sounded prejudiced. Just so we're clear, I like Ai as a character. My view on her and Conan as a couple is sheerly objective. I just don't think it would make sense with the story for them to be romantically involved

*defensive maneuvers*

No offense, no offense

[predator64]

That almost sounded prejudiced. Just so we're clear, I like Ai as a character. My view on her and Conan as a couple is sheerly objective. I just don't think it would make sense with the story for them to be romantically involved

*defensive maneuvers*

No offense, no offense

Why not make sense?Maybe it's just your opinion...
Yeah,I recognized that and I respect each one's opinion.

Actually,I believe almost everyone of this topic know that if Gosho wants to kill her,her best death would be sacrifice her life for someone.

That's not a happy ending at all so I doubt she will die.

True,but look at Yaiba!,the Gosho Aoyoma other work.He did killed Ai counterpart in the manga.
But there are A LOT of difference between that counterpart and Ai...

[1Kaito]

. My view on her and Conan as a couple is sheerly objective.

Objective?...It is definitely biased.

[psyko_stevey_999]

No, it's really not. Here's the deal, from the beginning of the story BEFORE the APTX, what did you have? Ran and Shinichi on a "date" with Shinichi contemplated revealing his feelings for her. That was and is one of the prime plot lines of the show.

What and AiCon ending does is cut off that line of progression prior to completion. If it had been Ai in the beginning and Ran as a later romantic interest, it would be AiCon as the logical choice

You can't have a logical ending to that stream of events without them getting together. It wouldn't make sense

[1Kaito]

No, it's really not. Here's the deal, from the beginning of the story BEFORE the APTX, what did you have? Ran and Shinichi on a "date" with Shinichi contemplated revealing his feelings for her. That was and is one of the prime plot lines of the show.

What and AiCon ending does is cut off that line of progression prior to completion. If it had been Ai in the beginning and Ran as a later romantic interest, it would be AiCon as the logical choice

You can't have a logical ending to that stream of events without them getting together. It wouldn't make sense

I completely agree buuuut we weren't talking about that at all sooo...

You were saying how you can see Ai "sacrificing herself to protect Conan, over even Ran or Agasa. It would be a great ending to her character transformation. Starts out as a girl who was used and abused and thereby found it difficult to trust anyone. Then she slowly begins to see that there are good people in the world and then in a moment of clarity she decides that she would willingly die if it meant protecting someone close to her"

IMHO that is not only a very corny ending it would not be a great ending to her "character transformation" at all. In fact, that would be a total waste of her character. This scenario is commonly brought up by ShinRan fans who would rather Ai do anything else (no matter how ridiculous) than to have anything romantically to do with Shinichi. I honestly can't see her romantically involved with Conan also, but then again I am neither a ShinRan nor an AiCo. So I was merely stating how it'd be hard to believe your view of this is completely "objective" rather than at least a little biased.

[psyko_stevey_999]

And you're called ME biased?! Holy crap do you have a ShinRan detention center in your basement where you lock away people like us? You act as if the only way for Ai to be happy is if she's in the underdeveloped arms of Conan

I think she would just fine, live or dead without Conan.

In fact maybe HE should die in the end, that way nobody wins

[1Kaito]

And you're called ME biased?! Holy crap do you have a ShinRan detention center in your basement where you lock away people like us? You act as if the only way for Ai to be happy is if she's in the underdeveloped arms of Conan

I think she would just fine, live or dead without Conan.

In fact maybe HE should die in the end, that way nobody wins

I am pretty sure I agreed with you that Ai being with Conan didn't actually make sense...I didn't at all say anything like what you are accusing me of

Are you really reading what I am saying?

[psyko_stevey_999]

Weren't the one who just said you wanted a love triangle without a definite ending? That would imply that you at least to some extent wanted and AiCon pairing. If you didn't you'd have no objection to the earlier comment that even with a love triangle the ending was already determined