OK, for that case it seems my roles were unclear. However, Araide was only meant to be able to heal the protector only because of his presence if the protector died because he protected the protected one. Or, simply put: if Araide heals someone who is also the target of the BO, noone will die, even if a protector is present.conia wrote: Okay, what happened in Night 2 was:
Callid went to kill Ctu. Ctu went to protect Beastly. blurfbreg chose to heal Beastly. c-square chose to use First Aid on Ctu.
Callid had to go to Beastly's house, because Ctu was there protecting him. Callid shot Ctu in Beastly's place. Ctu doesn't learn the identity of the attacker, because he failed at protecting. blurfbreg gets to Beastly's place. Since Ctu(attacked) was also in Beastly's place, blurfbreg healed Ctu. c-square, who also arrived at Beastly's place to use his First Aid on Ctu, failed because blurfbreg healed him (If both healers try to heal the same player, Araide's healing will prevail over Okiya's).
So, that's the story. Yes, BO got really unlucky.
@xpon: I don't mind modding next Mafia, but I have a test on Thursday. Until then, I can't start with the GM work.
Imagine it in the following way: We have three persons, Araide, Ran and, let's say, Ai. Ran protects Ai, and therefore watches Ai at whatever she's doing, ready to run to protect her. Araide is ready to heal her (Ai) if she gets wounded, and is watching her for the same reason. If no someone of the BO would try to kill Ai, Ran would jump in the way and defend Ai, getting shot by the BO. Now Araide runs over, because he saw Ran jumping in front of Ai, and heals her. However, if the BO had decided to kill Ran instead, Araide wouldn't have noticed she was attacked, because he was completely focused on what happened to Ai, and Ran had died. That was to ensure that the protector's acting wouldn't result in a dead, although Araide protected the right person, it wasn't meant as it was used in the game - this way, Araide could always protect up to three people each night.
1. I talked about PROTECTIVE roles. Protective roles make it impossible for the Mafia to kill someone without revealing a identity. This has nothing to do with the ones you listed. I wasn't talking about strong roles.Beastly wrote: 1. There's no Eisuke and DBs. No Megure too
2. No comment.
3. I beg to disagree, im automatically a target, after Gin die, my role was weaker especially if i havent learned Okiya and Akai's role. And if we didnt lynch correctly atleast once it will be opposite
4. Read number 2 of your post.
5 Last time, GM ask da oth3r BO if anokata didnt gave a say.
6. Irish's not weak u got a role what if its sherry or eisuke who you found out?
7. My key are broken
3. You were an unlynchable target. With that number of protectors, we needed to take them out first (as Night 2 showed). And you were able to lynch wrong 2 times. It would still have been 2 vs. 1 (if the BO had successfully killed every night, which I doubt).
4. I did. So what?
5. Yes. But you should have noticed that now everybody takes his actions at night, and someone being inactive without announcing it is a very rare event. I also scolded 1412 for not making a provisional order. I'd do so if I knew I'd have only one hour to post (I always have a lot of time left when I make my final decision).
6. --> Role discussion. Not here.
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