Mafia! Mafia! Mafia! Character Role Discussions

[Raiden]

_{*Peeks into the thread, 's and flails wildly with arms in panic over spoilers. Puts on a blindfold and makes a trial-and-error run to quote a couple of posts with varying degree of success. :x*}

Won't it be better if we leave the Sera planning till the anime develops her character a little more?

^ Not going to say anything until that happens. XD

I find it sort of funny that before Sera appeared in the anime, people said "oh leave it until Sera appears in the show because it's spoilers", but now that Sera's appeared, people are saying all types of stuff that haven't been revealed in the anime yet anyway.

^Ditto.

_{*Runs off again ...or attempts to, bumping into every person on the way out. XD*}

[Stopwatch]

Spoiler:

[me=Stop]finds it hilarious they still haven't stopped talking about Sera as a her yet... then again, not so good at hints and most people here are manga readers anyway...[/me]
Besides, in a few days the anime-only people should know anyway

[Raiden]

Seems like everyone's taking in the new rule with Matsumoto not having investigate any longer, which makes him a little underpowered since he got nothing to claim if/when attempting to ally. Did no one like the idea about given him a Status similar to the FBI Leader, James Black, which I provided? :x

Would come out as something like this:

Police Leader; the Big Boss of Tokyo Police HQ.
- Role with that Status: Matsumoto
- At the start of the game, the Police Leader is told how many subordinates (Megure, Shiratori, Satou, Takagi, Chiba, Nakamori, Yumi, Tome, Yamamura, Yamato) are in the game. This includes characters disguised as the subordinates. He's not told which subordinates are in the game.
- If someone is disguised as a subordinate, then he will get a small hint, like: "You think there is something strange with your subordinate(s)"
- After every Night, he will get up to 2 results from his subordinates chosen at random (the number of reports he gets depends on the number of subordinates in the game, but he can't get more than two).
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-In case of Akai, James will only receive one of his
investigations. In case of Kir, James will receive only one of her actions (Betrayal, Investigation or Special Investigation) chosen by random. Same with any other subordinate who uses the Bow-Tie.**

**Wasn't sure of this one needing added to the police version, but maybe for Yamamura? XD ...the last sentence seems fine though.

[xpon]

the fact that he can arrest without getting suspended is already OVERPOWERED!!!

so let him be.

[PT]

I think Matsumoto is fine with only arrest, too.

[aries-chan]

I sorely blame an unexplained sugar high and an overstressed mind for this.

Goro, Secretly the boss /Insanely cute kitty Pet Cat

Status: Is the pet of one player and knows the identity of its owner.
(note: the owner cannot be BO, Lovers,Friends, DBs, Haibara -all too young :x or Yumi -allergic to cat fur )
Prep phrase action: Choose 8 player names to decide who the owner is.
Night action:Steal
Day action: -
Scent: FISH! (owner has a fish smell too. If slandered, it becomes BO)
Disguise:No. (can you exactly disguise as a cat? )
Gender observe:Male
Age observe: Child

mystii now thinks I'm crazy. I do nothing to deny those accusations. Please laugh and then forget I even mentioned this. It's silly fun. :x

[Stopwatch]

Well, other than the obvious Goro = Anokata, I think this could maybe possibly work , though as it is it appears like a weird friend-lover mix and we already have those types...

Things to maybe change would be the steal action, there are currently two Townies with it and one BO so I think that's probably enough for that, though maybe Akemi could use some help as other than her lack of scent she's severely disadvantaged with blending in and has crimes for most of the game. Maybe have it so Goro can be the pet of an org player too and so can be on either side? I think it'd be interesting :X

Scent-wise, I think it makes it too easy for Goro and his owner to be proven, all Haibara or Sera have to do is follow one of them and two people are automatically proven, it's partly why I think Goro befriending either side and playing for them would be good because it prevents that from happening as easily. Slander doesn't affect scent and scent is a day action anyway so maybe take that out...?

I'm presuming a non-org interrogation?

And what happens once the owner dies? Does Goro die too? Will he get any advantage like knowing the killer?

Awesome idea though

[aly_angelflight]

Well, other than the obvious Goro = Anokata, I think this could maybe possibly work , though as it is it appears like a weird friend-lover mix and we already have those types...

Things to maybe change would be the steal action, there are currently two Townies with it and one BO so I think that's probably enough for that, though maybe Akemi could use some help as other than her lack of scent she's severely disadvantaged with blending in and has crimes for most of the game. Maybe have it so Goro can be the pet of an org player too and so can be on either side? I think it'd be interesting :X

Scent-wise, I think it makes it too easy for Goro and his owner to be proven, all Haibara or Sera have to do is follow one of them and two people are automatically proven, it's partly why I think Goro befriending either side and playing for them would be good because it prevents that from happening as easily. Slander doesn't affect scent and scent is a day action anyway so maybe take that out...?

I'm presuming a non-org interrogation?

And what happens once the owner dies? Does Goro die too? Will he get any advantage like knowing the killer?

Awesome idea though

I'd rather have Goro be a random event character since cats can't talk to humans. Goro would randomly take something from one player during a night phase and give it to another player, and the person whose item was stolen in this manner would be told their item had been cat-napped and the person receiving the item would be told that Goro dropped by and gave you X's item.

[Iwamoto Yuri]

For my round I really wanted to add sera and mentioned that in the irc.
Kleene said she already had an idea for her, so me, kleene and stop started messing untill we got this:

Sera

Spoiler:

Day action: Stalk
Night Action: Jeet-Kun-Do, Investigate 1
Interrogation: Not BO
Scent: No
Disguise: Yes
Items: School book, Panties, Headgear
Observe: Teenager
Note: When gender observed, there is a 50% chance the observer will become confused and sees her as male.

We also made up these moves for her:

Jeet-Kun-Do

Spoiler:

Player protects self
Not Investigatable
- Roles with Action: Sera
- Night action, can't be covered
- Protect/Lovey-Dovey/Bone Breaking/Jeet-Kun-Do is handled as the same action when investigated/stake-out
- If Sera is attacked during Night Phase, she will protect herself and will learn the role of the attacker. The attacker will learn that the target was protected.
- Penalties:
- Once Sera has protected herself, she will be injured for 2 Night Phases. She will also be unable to use her other actions.
- If Ran or Makoto protects Sera, in the case she hasn’t been attacked previously, only Jeet-Kun-Do will be triggered. Only Sera will learn the attackers role and the protector will be told that the protection succeeded.
- If discombobulated the protection will fail.
- If Sera get’s sniped or Poisoned, Jeet-Kun-Do will have no effect and she will die.
- Lovey Dovey > Bone Breaker > Jeet-Kun-Do > Watch protection > Protect > Heal > First Aid

Stalk

Spoiler:

Not investigatable
- Role with that action: Sera
- Day action
- Sera will stalk a person and will learn a random fact about him/her. She can either see an object, or notice the persons gender or age. Since the results are random, if she stalks the same person twice she might get the same results.  
- Sera can’t detect a scent.
- If Sera stalks, the person who got stalked will hear he/she’s been followed.
- Can be frightened, in which the player will receive an "action failed" message.

So, now I'd like to hear what you guys think
at least I had fun working on this

And now I'm here... I totally want to add goro too lol.

[Kleene Onigiri]

I thought Jeet-Kun-Do will be passive? So no investigating it?

[Stopwatch]

Can't you investgate Akai's passive action though? Or'm I mixing that up? :x

[Kleene Onigiri]

You can't afaik?
You can investigate the BB tho, which is active :V

You also can't investigate the sniper's passive ability.

[Giogio]

For my round I really wanted to add sera and mentioned that in the irc.
Kleene said she already had an idea for her, so me, kleene and stop started messing untill we got this:

Sera

Spoiler:

Day action: Stalk
Night Action: Jeet-Kun-Do, Investigate 1
Interrogation: Not BO
Scent: No
Disguise: Yes
Items: School book, Panties, Headgear
Observe: Teenager
Note: When gender observed, there is a 50% chance the observer will become confused and sees her as male.

We also made up these moves for her:

Jeet-Kun-Do

Spoiler:

Player protects self
Not Investigatable
- Roles with Action: Sera
- Night action, can't be covered
- Protect/Lovey-Dovey/Bone Breaking/Jeet-Kun-Do is handled as the same action when investigated/stake-out
- If Sera is attacked during Night Phase, she will protect herself and will learn the role of the attacker. The attacker will learn that the target was protected.
- Penalties:
- Once Sera has protected herself, she will be injured for 2 Night Phases. She will also be unable to use her other actions.
- If Ran or Makoto protects Sera, in the case she hasn’t been attacked previously, only Jeet-Kun-Do will be triggered. Only Sera will learn the attackers role and the protector will be told that the protection succeeded.
- If discombobulated the protection will fail.
- If Sera get’s sniped or Poisoned, Jeet-Kun-Do will have no effect and she will die.
- Lovey Dovey > Bone Breaker > Jeet-Kun-Do > Watch protection > Protect > Heal > First Aid

Stalk

Spoiler:

Not investigatable
- Role with that action: Sera
- Day action
- Sera will stalk a person and will learn a random fact about him/her. She can either see an object, or notice the persons gender or age. Since the results are random, if she stalks the same person twice she might get the same results. 
- Sera can’t detect a scent.
- If Sera stalks, the person who got stalked will hear he/she’s been followed.
- Can be frightened, in which the player will receive an "action failed" message.

So, now I'd like to hear what you guys think
at least I had fun working on this

And now I'm here... I totally want to add goro too lol.

Yay, finally Sera
That sounds like a lot of fun to play.

[PT]

Seems overpowered.

Stalk is basically a better steal - potential to see an item, target won't be notified and it isn't a crime. The odds of getting the same results twice is kinda slim (considering she can also see age or gender), so that's not much to help it seem less powerful.

That on its own would be alright, but when you include JKD, which not only means she can die right away, it gives away a BO role.... she's a pretty powerful role right there. And then Inv 1 on top of it?

I dunno.

Take away Inv1, and either 1) make her injured during the 2 following phases when she can't use JKD again, and then she can only find one BO role through this method OR 2) make JKD only usable once altogether OR 3) make her not see a BO role at all and she can stay uninjured.

Just my suggestion. I know I wouldn't want to be BO against that powerful of a role. She's like half the town rolled into one.

[Giogio]

Nah, it's no fun if she can't see the BO role, imo.