Forum Mafia 59: Loosha's Grand Sea Adventure Town wins

[Fujiwara]

It wasn't a prep role, but the Character profile for Hakuba explicitly said "Disguise: No" which was weird for a non-prep role, but still makes Kid-Makoto against the rules and I'd say returning the APTX was the correct course of action.

*hands out chocolate-chip cookies to everyone*

Hakuba isn't Makoto. As far as I know, Hakuba still has travel. Thus, he IS a prep role.

Oops, I obviously meant Makoto, not Hakuba. Sorry about that. XD

[Kleene Onigiri]

eeeh, whatever XD

[Kamite]

I would like to thank to everyone for joining. Sorry about the story if it seems whack to some people.
Also about Kid-Makoto, when I was making the list of roles for players, I was primary looking at the abilities on who gets to do what and I try to find a balance for them. I did not realized that Makoto was not disguisable in rules and Disguise:No part of his profile. So I like to apologize for that mishap. I should have clear rules when making them. Also I blame minimafia. (I need a break)

EDIT: Also as I mentioned earlier. How about an official rules thread to be made. As a staple for other futures GM to copy and edited them, rather than copying from the earlier game. Since so many changes happen during the games that clear up could be used as well.

[Kirbypepe]

Yeah, sure, then Jecka would've thought the same, right? And DA knew I stole from Jecka so by talking to her she would have known that wasn't the case. (Because I confronted her about her role, which I wouldn't have done were I BO, I'd have her APTXed right away even if she's my sis).
Besides, that would be OOC, as I never mention the role I am is in if I'm BO because I think that's incredibly stupid. Mentioning that at all is stupid.

TL;DR
It was easier to explain you were Calvados Covering Akemi (given kill/crimes and knowing the age of Jecka's Role), than you being KID-Protector and still being able prove Jecka is town.

Haha but if I remember correctly didn't you tell bash your abilities and had him attempt to vouch for you as Kir/Okiya when you were really Bourbon. (Also If I remember correctly I made you upset that game too also by voting you without much more that what you've said in our exchanges). You mentioned both role which could be taken either way with me. As for OOC, I don't really play many games with you in terms of knowing what your character is anyway. So things that are OOC or aren't just go over my head, and I don't really pay much attention to it when it comes to people I don't talk to often. (Which is everyone Outside of PGT and Conia.... XD XD)

As for knowing that you stole, and that Jecka would have thought the same. I wouldn't be able to say. The main reason is that I don't know how Jecka would think given all the information I had at the time. At the time, I knew immediately that getting anything involving observe was due to a sniper, cause without any subs there are no town observers. So when you said you know Jecka is an adult, I thought you observed her. I then told SA to attempt to ID you as a sniper. After that you said that you got that info from somewhere else (I think you said you weren't sure of how accurate that info was) meaning you were in contact with a sniper (once again I didn't think of saying this person is an Adult with just Car Keys). So when I asked you to give me the information you said that you weren't willing to because you promised. That made me more suspicious of you cause if someone told you the age observe, and I knew that there was no town observers that you were to be in contact with a sniper. That night I was also stolen from. The night after that I was yet again stolen from.... normally when BO have Akemi, they steal from the same person twice in order to get enough info for an APTX, especially if the first Item they stole from the person is a Gun. Because that was what happened to me I was thinking that the BO were the ones stealing from me. When you told DA that you stole from me, that only made me suspicious even more so (also Who did Akemi steal from N3??????) At this phase we were entertaining the fact that Calvados was in (because you claimed protect and steal), and since there wasn't anyone else claiming being stolen from. From the beginning we were thinking you were Calvados covering Akemi's steal and that you were actually stealing from more townies, and the whole protect thing was just a ruse to cover your Cover action. We were also thinking KL was Akemi and that, that would be the reason why you were "Protecting" her.

Regardless, we took a shot in the dark thinking you were either Calvados/Akemi. And I caught an investigate of you Killing SA. So we thought it was safer to lynch you while at the same time reading how other people were voting, so we asked DA to post to not vote for you while in reality we want to have you lynched.

[Kamite]

Remind not to get on Kirby's bad side in a game. O-o

[Raiden]

(also Who did Akemi steal from N3??????)

She was busy raiding Yoko's panty drawer... ^^;

[KangarooGirl]

She never mentioned that to us :x Just the trick.

[Kleene Onigiri]

That's why kirby dies so often N1 :x

[Iwamoto Yuri]

Remind not to get on Kirby's bad side in a game. O-o

Remind me to not talk to kirby in a game ever again....

There's several things I have to say. though...
Firstly I wanna ask you the main thing I've wondered since the start.Why would I claim Makoto if the rules discribe him as not being a disguise? If I were BO fellow members would have surely pointed out if I was about to make that mistake.
Next, I wanna make some points for the next game....
10. I don't know the rules 100%
05. What are subs?
18. Snipers can see someone's age...?
11. I actually don't read the rules completely due to being lazy and easily distracted so usually I look up my role's abilities only.... (unless I'm GM, in which case I usually make a list of roles and actions...)

I love how people assume I'm smart like that because I'm totally a Mafia dummy.

Anyway, 'nough sulking, I had my revenge somehow~

[Raiden]

*snips*
Next, I wanna make some points for the next game....
10. I don't know the rules 100%
05. What are subs?

Subordinates. James' minions if you will. James got the FBI Leader status which he can use to get results from them if they are in the game. =)

FBI Leader
- Role with status: James Black
- At the onset of the round, the FBI Leader is given notice of how many of his subordinates (Jodie, Akai, Camel, Kir) are in the game. This count includes characters disguised as his subordinated.
- If Vermouth or Kid has a disguise of an FBI subordinate, regardless of if they use the disguise during the game, it will be counted in the subordinate list and James will receive a small hint akin to, "You believe something is strange with your suborinate(s)..."
Note: Akai/Jodie/Camel/Kir being Anokata will not count toward this notification, because they would not be in disguise. Anokata will be included in the number of FBI agents in the game if he's one of those roles, but there won't be anything strange about him. James can also receive Anokata's results in this case.
- After each night, James will receive a number of results from his subordinates based upon how many are left in the game. If 3+ are in the game, he will receive two results; if 0-2 are in the game, he will receive only one result.
- With concern to Akai, James will receive only one of his investigations. In the case of Kir, James will receive only one of her actions (Betrayal, investigate, or Special Investigation), chosen at random. The same also applies to any subordinate utilizing the bow-tie.

18. Snipers can see someone's age...?

Yes. Snipers (Chianti/Korn) and FBI Agents (Camel/Jodie). They can either Observe Age or Gender (not both and can only do one observe per player, per game). Read up on Observe in the rules on the first page of the thread if you want to know the specifics.

11. I actually don't read the rules completely due to being lazy and easily distracted so usually I look up my role's abilities only.... (unless I'm GM, in which case I usually make a list of roles and actions...)

Stop being lazy? I know, I know. It's hard, but totally worth it. V: *flees* XD

[Iwamoto Yuri]

aaaah, ok :V
and as someone with ADD, that's most likely impossible

[Memesu]

(Why was I killed btw? Random?)

I forgot who suggested it, but yeah. Night 1 kills are usually (read always) random. *hugs* Sorry.

A lucky coincidence though as it gave away the DB group being in the game for us. :x

o/
:x

[MoonRaven]

I never got to kill...

[breva]

I love how Miyano_Shiho was Sherry XD

[Stopwatch]

aaaah, ok :V
and as someone with ADD, that's most likely impossible

Give yourself reasons to need to look certain things up? Like, if someone claims Protect to you look up all the roles that have that keyword (Ran, Makoto, Akai, disguisers?) or if they claim a healer-type role look up who has FA/Heal (Koayashi, Araide, disguisers?) or Protect/BB/Cover(?) (Ran, Makoto, Akai, Calvados, disguisers) so you can keep in mind their potential roles and just keep doing stuff like that until it all sinks in? Once you have all that down you only really need to look at the changes to the rules and refresh things with whatever your role is in a particular round.

...I should take my own advice ^^;.