Mafia Round 53 (Town win)

[Iwamoto Yuri]

I felt incredibly useful this round :3

[PT]

Well.

I, for one, felt incredibly useless and like I was being manipulated a lot of the time. So thanks for that. :V

Seriously. I was lied to about leads/information and I was told to vote someone who was town when the person who told me to vote for that person didn't even vote her. I was told that bash and Meme were the suspects in Raifuu's death, when apparently pofa was told that it was me and Gio.

Next time, just TELL ME if I'm a suspect. I wouldn't have been offended.

But then even after the arrest I did, I'm still getting accused of being Gin, for what reason exactly? So at first I was going to prove myself by FAing but then I realized I had been manipulated and lied to and decided that I didn't care about being proven and was going to do something useful (which didn't matter anyway, because I was killed that phase, but that's entirely beside the point).

I felt like being told to vote Gio was a set up and that you guys were trying to get proof of my BOness. So yeah. That was fun. I know better than to trust people again. :V

[Jecka]

I'M SORRY RAIDEN!! Kamite told me to do it *sobs*

Also, who's totally excited to see me fail at being GM again? (Co-GM this time tho )

[miyano_shiho]

Thanks for the game, Stop!

We weren't the most active BO, and it's a shame for me to be Gin since I've been busy with school and stuff that I couldn't even go online on some days and more make an effort to ally people or think of better strategies. I was actually expecting to be lynched the day Gio got lynched, but then Meme got arrested and I knew there's nothing more I can do. Oh well. Also, there's no serial killer? :x

[bash7353]

[...]

Seriously. I was lied to about leads/information and I was told to vote someone who was town when the person who told me to vote for that person didn't even vote her. I was told that bash and Meme were the suspects in Raifuu's death, when apparently pofa was told that it was me and Gio.

Next time, just TELL ME if I'm a suspect. I wouldn't have been offended.

[...]

We had the list of suspects for killing Raifuu down to Meme and you, PT. And since both pofa and you claimed to be able to arrest, we decided that we would arrest both of you for it. We'd get the killer and one cop would get suspended, which is what happened. We didn't want you to know, though, that there were gonna be two arrest orders, one of which was bound to fail, because that would imply that we didn't know for sure.

[...]

But then even after the arrest I did, I'm still getting accused of being Gin, for what reason exactly? So at first I was going to prove myself by FAing but then I realized I had been manipulated and lied to and decided that I didn't care about being proven and was going to do something useful (which didn't matter anyway, because I was killed that phase, but that's entirely beside the point).

[...]

According to the rules it would theoretically be possible for Gin to arrest, so that was one of many scenarios we considered. But we decided that it doesn't make sense for Gin to arrest a fellow BO, so we concluded that you're likely town. There was, of course, the whole thing about you not actually being able to arrest which worked in your favour in the end, but it did have us confused for a bit. But, yeah, the BO targeted you in that very phase, so those thoughts didn't matter all that much.

[...] I felt like being told to vote Gio was a set up and that you guys were trying to get proof of my BOness. So yeah. That was fun. I know better than to trust people again. :V

Yeah, that didn't really happen the way I envisioned it. I really thought Giogio may be BO, but we then had disagreements about how to move forward...

[...] I was actually expecting to be lynched the day Gio got lynched, [...]

Like I said there was some debate, but we couldn't agree on a real plan on how to move forward. I was leaning towards Giogio and voted her while Yuri decided to vote you. Turns out I was wrong and she was right...

[PT]

We had the list of suspects for killing Raifuu down to Meme and you, PT. And since both pofa and you claimed to be able to arrest, we decided that we would arrest both of you for it. We'd get the killer and one cop would get suspended, which is what happened. We didn't want you to know, though, that there were gonna be two arrest orders, one of which was bound to fail, because that would imply that we didn't know for sure.

Except Yuri told me that another cop was going to arrest you for the crime. So I already knew two arrests were going to happen. Except, since I thought YOU were the other suspect, I tried to convince her that you DIDN'T kill Raifuu, since Kleene's will proved that. I wanted to avoid the other cop being suspended. But she basically just blew me off when I pointed that out. Might as well have told me the truth from the start, I would've felt less like an idiot afterward. I already knew by that point how many cops were in the game.

And anyway if it was down to me and Meme, why the hell was pofa lied to also?

According to the rules it would theoretically be possible for Gin to arrest, so that was one of many scenarios we considered. But we decided that it doesn't make sense for Gin to arrest a fellow BO, so we concluded that you're likely town. There was, of course, the whole thing about you not actually being able to arrest which worked in your favour in the end, but it did have us confused for a bit. But, yeah, the BO targeted you in that very phase, so those thoughts didn't matter all that much.

And yet, I was the one who talked to Stop about how Gin works, and I was the one who explained it to Yuri once I found out, and if she still had any suspicions, she could have confirmed what I told her with Stop herself. Gin could not have both investigated and arrested.

Yeah, that didn't really happen the way I envisioned it. I really thought Giogio may be BO, but we then had disagreements about how to move forward...

I was pretty sure Gio wasn't BO until Yuri made it sound like she might be. -_-; But then again, I was originally voting you that phase.

So basically, I spent the entire game in a position of investigating all the wrong things (like, not even CLOSE to the right things) and being lied to and manipulated by people I could supposedly trust. I was WISHING for a reason to lynch Yuri by the end of it. If only there had been a chance she could be BO.

[Iwamoto Yuri]

:V
Ok, it might not have been a good idea to lie to you... Sorry for that ok? But I didn't manipulate you at all. I said BASH wanted people to vote Gio, while I was almost sure she was town. I never asked you to do the same and never said I would or agreed on this matter. At this point I was actually sick of Bash's tendencies to overthink things so frequently. (first Raiden who made up some scheme to only seem attacked, then you being Gin and even pofa ended up being part of the conspiracy... I just couldn't stand him at the end... sheesh.)
I trusted you and pofa at the end, really, but my annoyance made me do and say some stupid stuff as well...
And while yes, I said bash was being arrested instead of you I never told pofa Gio and you were the only suspects. I did mention you were 'arresting' meme that night and I actually mentioned you being a suspect and being told she was arresting bash. Maybe she missed those lines cause she didn't reply afterwards, but I still told her.
Also, I'm sorry I made you feel manipulated, cause honestly, you didn't have to do anything for me OR bash. People were letting me tell them what to do too easily for that matter, yk you can make your own decisions as well right?
And sorry I lied to you, bash' talk about you being gin maybe got to my head as well, even though I dismissed it just as hard. With an ally that suspects everyone.... You might get the point.

[Raiden]

I'M SORRY RAIDEN!! Kamite told me to do it *sobs*

Also, who's totally excited to see me fail at being GM again? (Co-GM this time tho )

XD
*Pats* All is forgiven, Vodka-chan!

Spoiler: \o/ \o/

* KID-Tiger infiltrate the jail and gives flowercookies to Vodka, Tequila and Gin and also give some to Vermy's ghost. \o/

*Nom nom* Well played everyone.

* KID-Tiger uses the glider to drop cookie packages to everyone else too \o/
Nicely done, townies! Congrats on victory!

PS:
@PT: Oh. to answer your question about why you was mentioned twice in my will. Chalk it up to an oversight. I made a last minute addition to my will and didn't have time to proof read it. :V
@Bash: Your right I didn't tell you directly I'd heal myself but I implied it in the PMs we exchanged before phase change. I said I didn't fully trust you, but at the same time also confirmed to you I healed myself Night 1. Read between the lines it could be taken as I might do it again... :p Then again, it was a white lie to get by until I had more time to ponder the new information you had given me. >.> (I probably could have phrased it better, but as I said above, not any time to proof read :x)

Biggest regret of mine this game was forgetting to ask Aly to protect me the night I died as I had planned too when I told Kleene I would heal myself. I got distracted by other stuff and didn't realise until it was too late. Epic face-paw worthy moment. :VVV Oh well...not like I could do anything anyway. XD

[bash7353]

According to the rules it would theoretically be possible for Gin to arrest, so that was one of many scenarios we considered. But we decided that it doesn't make sense for Gin to arrest a fellow BO, so we concluded that you're likely town. There was, of course, the whole thing about you not actually being able to arrest which worked in your favour in the end, but it did have us confused for a bit. But, yeah, the BO targeted you in that very phase, so those thoughts didn't matter all that much.

And yet, I was the one who talked to Stop about how Gin works, and I was the one who explained it to Yuri once I found out, and if she still had any suspicions, she could have confirmed what I told her with Stop herself. Gin could not have both investigated and arrested.

It was like, "We had PT arrest Meme and now Meme's arrested. Kid and Vermouth are already dead and a Special Investiagte told us she didn't use Choose Costumes during Prep Phase. That means she isn't disguised as someone who can use Arrest, she's actually a role that can arrest. Therefore, town... Oh, hold on, Gin might be able to use Arrest, right? But we know that Meme's BO. Gin wouldn't take Meme out of the game like that, even if asked. In that case it'd be more likely for her to make it look like her arrest failed or something, so therefore, likely town."

And all that happened amidst the confusion about whether you'd be allowed to arrest in the first place...

[Iwamoto Yuri]

According to the rules it would theoretically be possible for Gin to arrest, so that was one of many scenarios we considered. But we decided that it doesn't make sense for Gin to arrest a fellow BO, so we concluded that you're likely town. There was, of course, the whole thing about you not actually being able to arrest which worked in your favour in the end, but it did have us confused for a bit. But, yeah, the BO targeted you in that very phase, so those thoughts didn't matter all that much.

And yet, I was the one who talked to Stop about how Gin works, and I was the one who explained it to Yuri once I found out, and if she still had any suspicions, she could have confirmed what I told her with Stop herself. Gin could not have both investigated and arrested.

It was like, "We had PT arrest Meme and now Meme's arrested. Kid and Vermouth are already dead and a Special Investiagte told us she didn't use Choose Costumes during Prep Phase. That means she isn't disguised as someone who can use Arrest, she's actually a role that can arrest. Therefore, town... Oh, hold on, Gin might be able to use Arrest, right? But we know that Meme's BO. Gin wouldn't take Meme out of the game like that, even if asked. In that case it'd be more likely for her to make it look like her arrest failed or something, so therefore, likely town."

And all that happened amidst the confusion about whether you'd be allowed to arrest in the first place...

And you forgetting to mention you knew gin could arrest.... I had to find out while talking to PT :V

[Kamite]

Mafia Round 54 will start in April/May

[Conia]

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